pigs_can_fly
earth girls aren't easy
ok thats cool
first sensible thing i've heard u say so far
first sensible thing i've heard u say so far
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That's because Unity lack the numbers to make a significant impact. She was afraid of the far left possibly being powerful enough to take president.pigs_can_fly said:
pigs_can_fly
earth girls aren't easy
well obviously that fear was unfounded...and i dun think choice realli got the numbers this time to make an impact either
Phanatical
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I'd like to think Everything I've said here has been Sensible. Even though I criticise a lot of the work of my representatives, I try not to accuse them baselessly. I claim that most student politicians are inherantly corrupt, but I qualify this by saying that within the contexts of the different political factions, "corrupt" takes on a different meaning.
In the case of Keep Left, their value system is corrupted, where they will hold a protest against Police Brutality because one of their members was arrested for beating up police officers. I don't doubt that that They believe they're right, but that doesn't mean I agree.
In the case of Action, it's the other way around. They have the discipline and training to win elections (the fact that Rose Jackson, NOLS matriarch came first in Drama for our HSC year sort of sets the tone for the rest of this particular discussion) - but they don't have the ethics good representatives Should have. They put electoral success ahead of ethics, and while this wins elections, this almost inevitably means inefficient and corrupted representatives.
In the case of Keep Left, their value system is corrupted, where they will hold a protest against Police Brutality because one of their members was arrested for beating up police officers. I don't doubt that that They believe they're right, but that doesn't mean I agree.
In the case of Action, it's the other way around. They have the discipline and training to win elections (the fact that Rose Jackson, NOLS matriarch came first in Drama for our HSC year sort of sets the tone for the rest of this particular discussion) - but they don't have the ethics good representatives Should have. They put electoral success ahead of ethics, and while this wins elections, this almost inevitably means inefficient and corrupted representatives.
Phanatical
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I think we all knew that Choice would be weak in this election, despite fervant hopes to the contrary. While for the Left, there was only a choice between Keep Left and Action, for everybody else there was a choice between Choice/Resolve and not voting at all. To not vote sends the message that they don't want to be part of the SRC or its processes, and would be as effective in sending the message that they don't like the work of the SRC as voting for Choice/Resolve.
pigs_can_fly
earth girls aren't easy
don't start coming up with excuses now
Phanatical
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You may call them excuses. I call it looking at the carnage, and analysing the damage before formulating suggestions and policy to address the situation.
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Actually come to think of it they did do a deal with Unity, because they declined to run a candidate for president and instead went for Nick Wood.
pigs_can_fly
earth girls aren't easy
thats right, it was a bit of a 'carnage' wasn't it?
pigs_can_fly
earth girls aren't easy
yeh they didwithoutaface said:
unity were offered sec and vp, contingent on certain conditions being met, but weren't offered any NUS delegate positions
Phanatical
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GO!!! wasn't actually an independent ticket, was it? You sure don't sound like an independent. Your campaigners sure sounded uncertain about what it was you guys stood for - half of them wondered why they were supporting Action. My guess is that You're that reason.
pigs_can_fly
earth girls aren't easy
well i dun think u were any more independent than we were, so u really can't say much about that.
and even if some campaigners weren't as knowledgeable as they might've been, they sure pulled more votes than u did - says something about u and ur policies doesn't it?
and even if some campaigners weren't as knowledgeable as they might've been, they sure pulled more votes than u did - says something about u and ur policies doesn't it?
Phanatical
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I was the only truly independent candidate in this election.
pigs_can_fly
earth girls aren't easy
i darno how u can keep asserting that u are independent, when u quite obviously made a one for one preference deal with choice. in the eyes of the voter, u were clearly not independent.Phanatical said:
if we assume ur logic, then GO!!! was also another independent ticket, since we dealt off only our presidential preferences and nothign else.
Phanatical
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It was a preference deal, and nothing more. I don't defend their policies (except for those that we share). Besides, GO!!! is such a Stupid name.
pigs_can_fly
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not content in whining about his own failed campaign, Phanatical tries to defend his dignity by criticising another ticket's name - classy, very classyPhanatical said:
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