Symbian & Nokia: Is there any hope? (1 Viewer)

[blue_chameleon]

With the mixed reviews coming through from S60 on the N97, there are plenty that are very quick to criticise it and write it off completely.

Nokia have recently paid $500 million to purchase Symbian and convert it to non-profit, so obviously Nokia have rolled the dice on this.

Can Nokia take a clue, fix Symbian and bring it into line with the likes of Android, WebOS? Symbian in its current state may be fine for those that aren't seeking smartphones, but they honestly can't think of releasing Symbian as we know it on their next smartphone without a massive overhaul.

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The concepts explored here seem promising and I really do hope Nokia are addressing the obvious "clutter" issues that Symbian has. If you guys have any interesting links/videos feel free to post them up.

 

[johony]

it's a nice concept they've put together there, reminds me of palm pre's 'cards' interface, albeit with transparent layers. whether this works well in practice or not is yet to be seen.

i think the biggest problem nokia will have in terms of getting in front of their rivals, is the quality and quantity of 3rd party apps; you would have thought they would have a 3-4 year headstart, but instead have quickly fallen behind the 8-ball in the face of google android and the iphone OS.

 

[justanotherposter]

Well, that video shows that it has some nifty multi-tasking capabilities which the iPhone OSX lacks completely which is a pretty big plus. However after seeing what HTC did with Android in the Hero I'd be inclined to say that Nokia has a long way to go. I bet even Apple is squirming after the release of the Palm Pre and HTC Hero.

 

[electrolysis]

lol - modifying the calendar while making a video call?! who the hell is gonna do that.

Unless nokia makes a SUPEREPICMASSIVE change to symbian, they're gonna die soon, real soon
But anyways, multitasking isnt anything new - it could be done easily without a hassle if the phone had a fast enough processor - something that the htc's had going mainstream ages ago.

+ Nokia is entering the touchscreen market HEAPS late, the competitors have got a lead of atleast 3years+ R&D into consumer touchscreen mobile phones.

Nokia is playing a catch up game that they rather should just give up on.

 

[blue_chameleon]

lol - modifying the calendar while making a video call?! who the hell is gonna do that.

Unless nokia makes a SUPEREPICMASSIVE change to symbian, they're gonna die soon, real soon
But anyways, multitasking isnt anything new - it could be done easily without a hassle if the phone had a fast enough processor - something that the htc's had going mainstream ages ago.

+ Nokia is entering the touchscreen market HEAPS late, the competitors have got a lead of atleast 3years+ R&D into consumer touchscreen mobile phones.

Nokia is playing a catch up game that they rather should just give up on.

The way I understood it, the "calendar and call" example was to highlight what it could be capable of.

Whilst they wont be leaders in the smartphone market (especially in terms of OS) I can't see them dying "real soon". They have too greater of a market share for them to die in the medium-term.

I really believe that if Nokia are capable of creating something amazing (in the leagues of what the iPhone is for Apple). They just need to sort out what they are doing with this rubbish OS in Symbian, and they need to get something that the others haven't thought of yet.

The gap is widening.

 

[electrolysis]

The way I understood it, the "calendar and call" example was to highlight what it could be capable of.

Whilst they wont be leaders in the smartphone market (especially in terms of OS) I can't see them dying "real soon". They have too greater of a market share for them to die in the medium-term.

I really believe that if Nokia are capable of creating something amazing (in the leagues of what the iPhone is for Apple). They just need to sort out what they are doing with this rubbish OS in Symbian, and they need to get something that the others haven't thought of yet.

The gap is widening.

Ahh, it depends – if Nokia don’t make any radical changes soon, they will have no choice but to pull out of the business all together, rather than fight until they lose all their market share and amount massive losses monetary wise while at it. They’ve already took a massive 90% decline in earnings for the first quarter this year and another 66% fall in profits during the second quarter this year – that sure says something about their current position.

As soon as the market for budget priced phones in emerging economies goes bust, that is when they will have to call it quits.

I wouldn’t give them any more than 5 years at best imo.

 

[aussie-boy]

Nokia should forget about expensive phones and focus on the budget market, i.e. customers who want to call and text only, and to whom $29 a month+ phone plans are expensive.