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lyounamu said:
It may seem unfair for women who will need to go through that but tough luck. It was a signifcant part of her fault to have done so.

By the way, I still don't see how having unsafe sex cannot be branded "irresponsible behaviour".

From my first post, I have not suggested abortion as a irresponsible action. I have taken unsafe sex being the one. I merely stated that abortions are mostly due to the irresponsible actions by the couple (not due to the female).
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Miffstaa said:
And it might sound harsh but tough luck, the female dealt with it by having the abortion. And while we do focus a lot on the 'fetus' and the morals that are associated by killing it, what about the females life? I wouldnt want mine to go down the drain.
What's all this argument about? I have never let the abortion down as an alternative option. I have merely stated that abortion is mostly for irresponsible retards which is true.
 

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lyounamu said:
What's all this argument about? I have never let the abortion down as an alternative option. I have merely stated that abortion is mostly for irresponsible retards.
and im just saying that it isnt and that your statement is absolutely ridiculous
 

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Miffstaa said:
and im just saying that it isnt and that your statement is absolutely ridiculous
I cannot possibly view unwanted pregnancies being the result of responsible sex (except the cases of rape and other crimes where the one aspect of party didn't wish to condone the pregnancy)
 

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lyounamu said:
I cannot possibly view unwanted pregnancies being the result of responsible sex (except the cases of rape and other crimes where the one aspect of party didn't wish to condone the pregnancy)
condoms do not provide 100% protection, if you have the flu and are using antibiotics whilst you are on the pill you can also get pregnant. there are many possible scenarios...
 

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lyounamu said:
I cannot possibly view unwanted pregnancies being the result of responsible sex (except the cases of rape and other crimes where the one aspect of party didn't wish to condone the pregnancy)
Hmm. And the 0.05-10% failure rate of various contraceptives counts as "irresponsible sex".

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Miffstaa said:
condoms do not provide 100% protection, if you have the flu and are using antibiotics whilst you are on the pill you can also get pregnant. there are many possible scenarios...
Would you like to quote the chance of that? I would assume that the chance of condoms failing is probably about 1-3% at most.

Some cases which involve so-called "accidents" are not really accidents at all. And the cases where condoms or other contraceptives fail are due to the irresponsible uses of them.
 

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lyounamu said:
Would you like to quote the chance of that? I would assume that the chance of condoms failing is probably about 1-3% at most.
the reason i quoted those scenarios above is because they have occurred to several people.
 

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Miffstaa said:
the reason i quoted those scenarios above is because they have occurred to several people.
Yes, it does happen to several people. But I reckon the chance of unwanted prognency purely based on probability would be extremely minute.
 

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lyounamu said:
Yes, it does happen to several people. But I reckon the chance of unwanted prognency purely based on probability would be extremely minute.
and would it still make them irresponsible for having an abortion?
 

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Miffstaa said:
And it might sound harsh but tough luck, the female dealt with it by having the abortion. And while we do focus a lot on the 'fetus' and the morals that are associated by killing it, what about the females life? I wouldnt want mine to go down the drain.
So you kill another for your own convinience. Nice going, morally vacuous bitch.

Don't want a baby don't have sex. Want to take the risk? Fine, everyone does but don't complain when you're the statistical minority that gets saddled with an infant! lol 2 u!
 

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Miffstaa said:
and would it still make them irresponsible for having an abortion?
Irresponsible for the extreme chance whereby the unwanted pregnency could occur.
 

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Nebuchanezzar said:
So you kill another for your own convinience. Nice going, morally vacuous bitch.
yeah ill actually be honest and say that i would do that. id cash out the $360 and try to forget that im killing a living thing.

Don't want a baby don't have sex. Want to take the risk? Fine, everyone does but don't complain when you're the statistical minority that gets saddled with an infant! lol 2 u!
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In this instance, we have the typical selfish female equating a human life to a watermelon. Truly fascinating creatures!
 

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lyounamu said:
And the cases where condoms or other contraceptives fail are due to the irresponsible uses of them.
That's bull. Sometimes the condom breaks, even when it's put on properly. Sometimes the pill just fails, even when it has been taken correctly.
 

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