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The new cold war - under the North Pole



Russia has started a bizarre colonial-style scramble after a submarine planted a flag under the North Pole to symbolise the Kremlin's claim to the oil-rich Arctic.

Now, the New Zealand company that partly conceived the project says the controversy threatens to overshadow the success of the expedition. Deep Ocean Expeditions came up with the idea to dive to the seabed at the North Pole nine years ago and brought on Russian investors about a year ago. New Zealander Peter Batson, the company's project scientist, told the Weekend Herald from the Arctic Sea last night that the first successful dive to the ocean floor at the geographic North Pole had been an amazing trip.

He was aware of controversy over concerns the Russian flag was a symbolic bid to stake a claim to a region thought to contain vast reserves of oil and gas.

Russia had reportedly also used the expedition to gather samples to substantiate its claim that the Lomonosov Ridge, a shelf that runs through the Arctic, is an extension of Russian territory. Its two Mir submersibles made the dives over 4261m beneath a thick cover of permanent sea ice. Mr Batson, who had been taking photographs of the expedition, said it was quite a sight to see the submersibles disappear into the relatively small hole in the ice smashed open by the Russian icebreakers. It was very difficult navigation to find a very small ice hole.


It was a privately funded expedition, with no contribution from the Russian Government.
Leader of the United Russia Party, hailed the expedition as "a new stage in developing Russia's polar riches. I am proud our country remains the leader in conquering the Arctic." International law allocates rights to the five states with territory inside the Arctic Circle - Canada, Norway, Russia, the US and Denmark (via its control of Greenland). But Russia is claiming a larger slice because, it says, the Arctic seabed and Siberia are linked by one continental shelf.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10455785
 

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Australia should claim the whole of Antarctica for her majesty the Queen.
 

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The media keep trying to paint this as being the start of another cold war, but i think anger or hostility would be the last thing in anyones mind.

The media can keep hoping though. If there was another cold war i'm sure that would give them something new to write about. Something new to keep everybody in fear over. A new drug to inject into the intravenous drip to keep the information age of hysteria alive and well.
 

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Justin said:
The media keep trying to paint this as being the start of another cold war, but i think anger or hostility would be the last thing in anyones mind.

The media can keep hoping though. If there was another cold war i'm sure that would give them something new to write about. Something new to keep everybody in fear over. A new drug to inject into the intravenous drip to keep the information age of hysteria alive and well.
the title says cold war. that's it.

and russia has shown lots of hostility to western nations in the past few years even if this article is stupid.
 
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ninemsn or yahoo had a poll yesterday "is this the start of the next cold war".

As if anything on the scale of the cold war is likely. The media can only hope :rolleyes:
 

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:confused: It's just a silly web poll.
 

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Yes but those who publish them like to think that the question is believable (on the Yahoo or NineMSN frontpage anyway).
 

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Silver Persian said:
If by Reagan you mean Gorbachev, then yes.
Nah, it was Reagan Reagan.

He was the one with the vision to believe there could be a world without communism and the balls to call the Soviet Union the 'evil empire', instead of wilting like Nixon or Carter to public pressure. He stood up for what he believed in, despite the chattering classes of pundits and hawks constantly wailing about him not knowing what he was doing.

Gorbachev wouldn't have come to lead the Soviet Union if Reagan hadn't started them down the road of bankruptcy in the first place. Gorbachev was a major factor, but had it not been for Reagan playing his hand the way he did, the Soviet Union probably would never have collapsed.
 

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No one is linking the title of the Cold War to the content? Geez..
 

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Australia should claim Antarctica in the name of Australia, not some dying monarch on the other side of the world. As well as Indonesia, Papua New Guinea and New Zealand.
 

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