The Notorious B.I.G VS Tupac (1 Viewer)

[Pilgrim]

BIG > Tupac.

BIG had skill. Tupac had nothing but good story telling and flow.

Everybody is on his dick these days/since he died, which makes it worse.

If it wasnt so cool to throw up a W and yell out west side, i doubt he would have had as much cult following.

 

[the leader]

now really, what is talent? what is skill? surely good storytelling and flow are covered by the 'skill' umbrella? What else does a good rapper need? Storytelling gets your story told, flow gets your story told in a way that is pleasing to hear. And if you're gonna say Notorious BIG was more poetic, I say to you:

"I do the dishes and clean the floor, when I sleep I can't dream no more, oh no, now I'm a part-time mutha. I change the diapers and clean the s***, the tables are turned, I can't take it, oh no, now I'ma part-time mutha"

better rhyming than "a fistful of bullets, a chest full of teflon" I'm sure

 

[hiphophooray123]

wow two random lines were compared oh nooo

that's like me comparing 'hit em up' to 'sky is the limit' in order to provide an argument in favour of biggie, ie, a fucking shit argument, like your one.

we aren't saying that 2pac didn't have skill or talent, not by any means did anyone in this thread say that, and if they did then they are wrong, and clouded by their 'omg lol im a hip hop elitist lol im gonna hate on everything now' (i used to be a bit like that but i grew up) ideology.

but the fact remains

biggie > 2pac

and alot of other rappers > 2pac.

 

[dillian]

fuck your stupid mainstream industry, best be forgiving me, the dopest mc, to ever hit The universe, more fanbase than converse, biggie and tupac are worse, than someone throwing a hurs, of a cliff, fuck this shit, im out to blaze a spliff, and watch my hsc go right past me, why listen to rappers who talk about how they wanna blast thee.

faggots

 

[redruM]

fuck your stupid mainstream industry, best be forgiving me, the dopest mc, to ever hit The universe, more fanbase than converse, biggie and tupac are worse, than someone throwing a hurs, of a cliff, fuck this shit, im out to blaze a spliff, and watch my hsc go right past me, why listen to rappers who talk about how they wanna blast thee.

faggots

w0rd?

 

[hiphophooray123]

that was dope cunt homie yea cunt oz hip hop 4 lyfe cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt

 

[redruM]

I wonder why the fuck you said cunt
Coz this guy is a joke like Mike Hunt

peace

 

[hiphophooray123]

my cock is so hard
and now everyone that reads the above line will be scarred

 

[TRIPS]

that was dope cunt homie yea cunt oz hip hop 4 lyfe cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt

Dude just shut the fuck up sure biggie and tupac were good but shit they arent the best tupac couldnt flow for fuck and biggie rhymed stupid words. why is this thread even still open its repetitious. Like you would know anything you dick in your mind aussie hip hop is bliss n eso and the hilltop hoods go back to your r'n'b super club fag

 

[redruM]

No idea what the last sentence was about...

 

[hiphophooray123]

Dude just shut the fuck up sure biggie and tupac were good but shit they arent the best tupac couldnt flow for fuck and biggie rhymed stupid words. why is this thread even still open its repetitious. Like you would know anything you dick in your mind aussie hip hop is bliss n eso and the hilltop hoods go back to your r'n'b super club fag

I LoVe ThA PuSsYcAt DoLlZ CuNt N Ze 50 CeNt RuLz 2 CuNt NaH BuT Ur An Ok CuNt *goes listens to 96.1*

RnB SupErClUb RuLz I'M ReLlY ReLlY MaInStREaM I LyKe WeN DeY PlAy BiG L N KrS OnE In RnB SuPeRcLub LoLz

fuck off you wannabe-elitist.

 

[acmilan]

fuck your stupid mainstream industry, best be forgiving me, the dopest mc, to ever hit The universe, more fanbase than converse, biggie and tupac are worse, than someone throwing a hurs, of a cliff, fuck this shit, im out to blaze a spliff, and watch my hsc go right past me, why listen to rappers who talk about how they wanna blast thee.

faggots

No.

 

[the leader]

Can we get back to the TOPIC?? why can't I (or anyone else, for that matter) compare two random lines from two random songs? Oh, sorry that would be comparing their raps, wouldn't it? And that would defeat the sole purpose of this entire thread wouldn't it? HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHO WAS THE BETTER ARTIST WITHOUT COMPARING THEIR WORK? WHAT DOES IT MATTER IF THEY ARE LYRICS THAT I PULLED STRAIGHT FROM THE TOP OF MY HEAD?? They are still their words, are they not?

 

[redruM]

Can we get back to the TOPIC?? why can't I (or anyone else, for that matter) compare two random lines from two random songs? Oh, sorry that would be comparing their raps, wouldn't it? And that would defeat the sole purpose of this entire thread wouldn't it? HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHO WAS THE BETTER ARTIST WITHOUT COMPARING THEIR WORK? WHAT DOES IT MATTER IF THEY ARE LYRICS THAT I PULLED STRAIGHT FROM THE TOP OF MY HEAD?? They are still their words, are they not?

Thats because its fact that Biggie > Pac.

 

[hiphophooray123]

wtf leader your stupid you took a good line from pac and a casual line from big, and compared them, not to mention the big line was only 2 bars. That is absolutely fucking stupid. Seriously fucking stupid, let the older people argue while u go study for your year 10 exams bye bye.


not everything a rapper says is indicitive of their style

2pac said:

Now it's on and it's on because I said so
Can't trust a bitch in the bidness so I got with Death Row

biggie said:

I know how it feels to wake up fucked up
Pockets broke as hell, another rock to sell
People look at ya like use to used
Selling drugs to all the loosers mad buddha abuser
But they don't know about the stress-filled day
Baby on the way mad bills to pay
That's why you drink tangarate
So you can reminisce and wish
You wasn't living so devilish s-shit
I remember I was just like you
Smoking blunts with my crew
Flipping oldies 62's
'Cause G-E-D was it B-I-G, I got P-A-I-D
That's why my mom hates me
She was forced to kick me out, no doubt
Then I figured out things went for twenty down south
Packed up my tools saw my raw power move
Black nineteen forcasted flower moves
Four drunks trying to stop my flow
And what they don't know will show on the ortopsy
Went to see papi, the cock me a brik
Asked for circumcise and he wasn't trying to hear it
Smoking mad Newports 'cause I'm doing court for an assult
That I caught in Bridge Port, New York
Catch me if you can like the ginger bread man
You better have your gat in hand
'Cause man

I don't wanna live no mo'
Sometimes I hear death nocking in my front do'
I'm living like a hustle
Another drug in trouble, another day another sorrow

I had the master plan
I'm in the caravan on my way to Maryland
With my man Tutex to take over this projects
They call him Tutex, he tote tutex
And when he smoke the boss
He likes to ask who's next?
I got my honies on the Amtrack
With the crack in the crack of her ass
Two pounds of hash in the stash
I wait for hun to make some quick cash
I told her she could be lieutenant bitch got gassed
At last so I really really lounging Black
Seating back counting double digit thousands stacks
Had to read up see what's up with my peeps
Toyota dealer cars had it cheap on the jeeps
See who got smoked but rumors was spread
Last I heard I was dead with six to the head
Then I got the phone call
It couldn't hit me harder
We got infotrated
Like lino wa' the car
I heard Tec got murdered in a town I've never heard of
By some bitch named Alberta over nickel play the burnace
And my bitch swear to God she won't snitch
I told her where she hit the bricks I'll make the hooker rich
Conspiracy should be home in three
Until them I look south for the home family
A true G, got speed blowing like a bubble
In the everyday struggle

I don't wanna live no mo'
Sometimes I hear death nocking in my front do'
I'm living like a hustle
Another drug in trouble, another day another sorrow

I'm seeing body after body and our mayor Giuliani
Ain't trying to see no black man turn into John Gotti
My daughter use a potty so she's older now
Educated street knowledge I'ma mold 'er now
Trick 'er little dope bying young girls tringes
Dealing with the dope fiend binges
Seeing syringes in the veins
Hard to explain how I maintain
The crack smoke makes my brain feel so strange
Breaking days on the set no sweat from cold moet
Can't bag yet because's still wet
But when I dry back in five at a time
I can clock about nine on the check cashing line
I had to burst on the third
Rehearse that's my word
Thinking the game Ds knew my first name
Should I quit? Shit no!
Even though they had me scared
Yo they gotta eight I gotta teck with air holes

That's just how the shit goes in the struggle mother fucker

I don't wanna live no mo'
Sometimes I hear death nocking in my front do'
I'm living like a hustle
Another drug in trouble, another day another sorrow


omg i just compared their raps

big > 2pac

see how fucking stupid and illogical that argument is.

that's like saying 2pac only talks about violence because of 'hit em up' and big only talks about the positive and aims to motivate because of 'sky is the limit'

STUPID FUCKING ARGUMENT

god damn, stupid fucking amatuer, it's obvious why backpacker attitudes exist, because hip hop heads don't want to be associated with fools like you.

 

[lego]

man who cares eh, they were both good in their own ways. and obviously the two are going to mean different things to different people so just let it be that they were both great mcs.

 

[the leader]

Thankyou lego girl, at last a speck of female cool-headedness has joined the conversation. Mr hiphophooray, I think Mopreme put it well when he said "you're mixed up like a bowl of nuts". I am leaving this thread for greener and frankly, more meaningful pastures. Good evening and goodnight.

 

[m.c.moey]

good argument everyone. You cant really say who is better.. because you've got to say what they're better at?
Rapping in general is too broad of a topic to ask who is better than who.
It can be argued that biggie has more flow than tupac.. he can put anything together and make it sound good.
e.g
B I G P O P P A.. no info for the D E A.. hes just spelling his name and it sounds cool.. emphasis in right places etc..
2pac on the other hand.. was more philosophical.. had good things to say.. had lots of heart in his songs, almost all of them came strait from the heart.
Not to say biggie didnt have meaning to his songs, but 2pac was far greater and more meaningful. Biggie was greater than 2pac in making it flow and sound good.

Sorry if ive said something that anyone else has said, as if i was gonna read the whole thread.

edit: okay ive read the rest of the thread.. got bored lol

Why does one have to be greater than the other?
There have been alot of stupid things said in this thread..
such as "tupac wasnt real he used to be a ballet dancer"
fuck is that.. he actually used to go to an arts school so stfu
Both rappers have really good songs. Both that just sound good and got meaning.
Sound good:
biggie:
Fucking you tonight
Going back to cali
Gimme the loot
Mo money mo problems

Tupac:
.. none? haha nah
Ballad of a dead soldier
Hit em up (dont really like this song personally)
Why you turn on me
Thug style
Still ballin
Last ones left (he has good music with the outlaws)

Heart:
Tupac:
Brendas got a baby
Changes
Letter to my unborn
Letter to the president
White mans world

and thats jus to name a few.. we all know theres alot more

Biggie:
Ready to die
Everyday Struggle
Juicy
(more stuff from ready to die)

However one song that i really love is
Running (dyin to live) - pac and biggie
and there is anotoher one thats good as well
Lil eazy Feat 2pac and Biggie - Us against the world

Conclusion:
Both were great rappers, both contributed a great deal to the rap industry.. both sold lots of albums.. both were killed. let us appreciate both of their talents, however we are all entitled to our own opinions and we should not put down people jus because they think one is better then the other.

P.S. hiphoophooray i think you said "biggie never dissed tupac.. yes he did "Who shot ya " (sorry if it wasnt you that said it)

I dont want to be a fence sitter so i will say tupac was a better rapper, but maybe thats just because ive heard alot more songs of tupac than biggie.
Btw biggie had a gayer name than pac. Christopher Wallace haha that sounds so gay.. Christopher George Latore Wallace against Tupac Amaru Shakur.. the latter sounds way more gangster
However i do love the way biggie starts his songs with "Uhh Uhh".. thats gangster shit right there
Peace out. Fuck the po' po'.

 

[redruM]

Who shot ya wasn't an official diss. He was recording it when Tupac was first shot (the shooting that prompted Hit em up).

This is coming from BIG's sources, I know, but what else do we have to go off. And also, generally people claim a diss if they make one.

 

[hiphophooray123]

biggie never officially replied to 2pacs emotional ranting. 'Who shot ya' and 'long kiss goodnight' had the casual subliminal placed in there. That's it.

I don't think anyone can offer a valid opinion unless they have heard both rappers catalogues thoroughly.