iSplicer
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Yes, but they'd have a huge problem retaining their students.The thing is, some tutors offer that high price, for lower quality products.
Yes, but they'd have a huge problem retaining their students.The thing is, some tutors offer that high price, for lower quality products.
Unfortunately, that is the very sad thing about many students and private tutors.Yes, but they'd have a huge problem retaining their students.
Like I said as long as the tutor is really good and actual value for money then yes, it is fair. Partially why I hate Apple because they overcharge 2 fold which is annoying for the same reasons, their computers are terrible for value. But back to the point, they have to be really good to be demanding expensive prices, especially when people can get just as good ones for $30. Because tutoring isn't regulated or even really marketed some parents have no idea about the topic and assume that is what they should be paying, its like an electrician overcharging an elderly lady because they can. Don't take it as all tutors go to hell they are devils reincarnations! Take it as I disagree how some tutors abuse the innocence of people to gain more money.Yeah you're absolutely spot on. Screw Apple, BMW, Hilton and grey goose. How dare the bastards offer a superior product backed by quality, valid credentials and widespread satisfaction at a higher price. They are simply taking advantage of the population. Morons.
Case in point: Fawun's, who teaches roat learnin'Unfortunately, that is the very sad thing about many students and private tutors.
They get one, then just stick with them without 'shopping around'. So even if they have an extremely high price for what WE would consider 'low quality', the student would have zero idea because they don't have anybody else to compare with. They could think that the tutor is fantastic, for all they know.
This is the way things should be, but unfortunatelyIf the student feels as if they are not gaining much out of the tutoring or they want more, it is their obligation to stop and find a new tutor if they wish. You do not really need to compare tutor to tutor, its all about the student and whether or not they feel comfortable with their tutor.
Also its like any other product, the customer, in this case the student, should do their research into the tutors. In a day and age where the internet is full of people advertising their services, where there are so many other students getting tutoring, it is not that hard to get feedback on how good tutors are. Granted, it changes from student to student but it nevertheless is entirely possible to get an idea of what a tutor is like even before you have had them. You just need to ask around.
Tutoring definitely should consider the education of the student foremost, it certainly should be a higher priority than simply the money, however the customer also has a responsibility to do their research and to change a tutor when they feel they are npt getting their money's worth
this is often the way it is.Unfortunately, that is the very sad thing about many students and private tutors.
They get one, then just stick with them without 'shopping around'. So even if they have an extremely high price for what WE would consider 'low quality', the student would have zero idea because they don't have anybody else to compare with. They could think that the tutor is fantastic, for all they know.
I wish I could love again =(
Also, I've been a network administrator (LAMP + DNS) for five years and have been building, overclocking and modding PCs for twice that time. I've also worked with computer science lecturers and PhD students, and the majority of us choose Apple for our notebook needs (very rarely desktop though). The price premium is worth it for some people, with good reason (which I really shouldn't go over in this thread).Like I said as long as the tutor is really good and actual value for money then yes, it is fair. Partially why I hate Apple because they overcharge 2 fold which is annoying for the same reasons, their computers are terrible for value. But back to the point, they have to be really good to be demanding expensive prices, especially when people can get just as good ones for $30. Because tutoring isn't regulated or even really marketed some parents have no idea about the topic and assume that is what they should be paying, its like an electrician overcharging an elderly lady because they can. Don't take it as all tutors go to hell they are devils reincarnations! Take it as I disagree how some tutors abuse the innocence of people to gain more money.
Hey! It pays the bills sites gotta get revenue some how, haha.I wish I could love again =(
This is actually a considerably accurate reflection of the tutoring craziness...I need to post this thread up as after searching through various classifieds and students who only, let me repeat, ONLY graduated in recent yers and still only in their 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th Year of university advertising for ridiculous rates. Let me explain.
First of all, people who say they've taught 14, 924 + hours of tutoring experience, doesn't that already tick you off? It doesn't matter how many hours you've taught, you've only left school 2 or 3 years ago!
ie. I've taught at 10 previous tutoring colleges in the past year, racked up 84, 934 hours, scored ATAR of 99.95, doing med at ****, ranked first in the state in Math, English, etc, got DUX at my school, all my students I tutored last year got 99+, attained a $1 Million scholarship to Harvard...guess what? You're still doing your undergraduate studies at uni!
Second of all, most individual people who advertise here are undergrad students, most likely FULL-TIME students, ie. they go to uni at random times of the week, study then probably tutor on weekends. If you're smart enough to realise by now, they have other agendas. Getting high marks at uni is a priority for them. Tutoring is a way for them to make money. End of story.
The point being is, if they really want to help you and are teachers in essence, they would not charge extremely disgusting rates. If they actually taught at a commercial place, that's understandable but if they make you go to their homes and charge rates like these below, this is what ANGERS me:
1 on 1: $40 per hour or more.
Groups of 2 or more: $30 per hour ore more.
If you put in the numbers on the calculator, if some tutors are true to their words, undergrads from this forum are making at least $1, 500 in cold hard cash tutoring on weekends. At least $78, 000 per year and they are studying full-time. Think about it. Even some of my friends who have worked in the finance industry for 3-5 years aren't getting that yet and thats BEFORE TAX.
To all the students out there, if you're looking for tutors, there are HEAPS out there and please for the life of GOD do not pay ridiculous amounts like above for an undergrad student no matter what their credentials are. High ATAR does not correlate to being a good tutor. TRUST ME. If you don't believe me, see it for yourself. It's marketing 101.
The rates you should be looking at for tutors are if you're going to their HOUSE:
1 on 1: $25-$30 per hour
Groups of 2 or more: $15-$20 per person per hour.
The tutors are making you go to their HOMES, and will be earning at least $25 in cash per hour which is extremely good for them in this economic climate. Anything more, they're just after your money. You don't have to be a genius to realise that if tutors and teachers want to help students, the first thing is that they want to teach you to help you get better. Teachers and tutors all realise students don't have a lot of money and won't charge insane high rates from 1-4 years of experience, especially when they're studying full time doing a completely unrelated degree to education.
Let me say again, I had to post this as I'm completely FIRED UP by the rates students post up here. You guys should hang your heads in shame and not even your credentials warrant such high fees. You guys should seriously f**king look yourself in the mirror. For those students who have been tutored by high rates, it doesn't matter if they really helped you, completely irrelevant. I have a load of friends who at my age and who seen the world enough, with same credentials, are working professional who will teach for less. For those who can't find any tutors with the rates I mentioned above, PM me and I'll happily refer you to one.
BTW, I'm an economist working at the RBA. I graduated in 2002 so I've seen enough.
Seriously so F**King ANGRY with tutors on this forum. This is a forum for students. They are here to learn.