Wealthy dominate Selective Schools (1 Viewer)

[Lolsmith]

"poor" and "rich" aren't objective terms this is a terrible discussion

Surely though, what with those places having waiting lists, every parent who sends their children to said school is telling the parents of the child who misses out that they can't do what's best for their child?

By all means though we should degrade others' education so no child is left behind

 

[Azure]

THE families of children attending selective public high schools are among the most affluent, prompting questions about the equity of the system and whether parents should face a means-tested levy.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/educ...ive-parents-20120303-1u9q4.html#ixzz1oEqBga14

Oh wow look there's a problem with the system. Quick, slap a levy on it and call it a day.

Thank goodness for those glorious levies hey.

 

[Kent12]

^I agree with Lolsmith

 

[Lentern]

"poor" and "rich" aren't objective terms this is a terrible discussion


By all means though we should degrade others' education so no child is left behind

No child left behind? What an innocent and coincidental use of language. Frankly yes but I know nobody is ever going to sit in the lower house uttering communist propaganda like that.

 

[Lentern]

So what if rich kids represent selective schools?

We want an intelligent populus, not a 'victory for the underdog'-esque soapie. Such is life, get on with it. The smart get ahead whether rich or poor.

You nauseating, tawdry, odious piece of feted bourgeoisie scum.

 

[OzKo]

Tutor'd people dominate Selective Schools.

Even poor Asian families (any poor family really) still send their kids to tuition centres so yeah..... (like mine)

It's a sad state of affairs as far as I'm concerned. There are better things money can be spent on by poorer families than sending their kids to tutoring because they don't trust their intellect. It over-inflates a child's performance and they will end up struggling in university (I know it happens).

 

[delian]

I went to a systemic catholic school. Being poor doesnt stop you from going to a selective school - as Ozko said, the wealthy are misrepresented because on average, wealthy people provide their children with a greater atmosphere and resources to succeed. But all that is peripheral to success - in order for a person to succeed, they must be driven and have some form of natural intelligence. Once they have these attributes, thats when having supportive parents and other factors come into play.

+1

 

[SylviaB]

let me guess central planner lentern

you think that more kids need to go to university, right

 

[Lentern]

let me guess central planner lentern

you think that more kids need to go to university, right

University is a different kettle of fish all together, by that stage a person is pretty much responsible for creating their own opportunities, primary school children are not.

 

[Garygaz]

wealth is just modern day evolution at work

 

[mirakon]

wealth is just modern day evolution at work

except a lot of the time wealth is more attributable to luck than intellectual/physical superiority

 

[seremify007]

I was from a selective high school and I'm proud of it. I've done reasonably well out of it and I now pay my fair share of taxes to the government to support the next generation of people in public schools including selectives. Being in a selective school by no means guarantees future success in any shape or form. Just like going to university.

Offering an environment which focuses on academia as opposed to sports or some other belief or focus should not be shunned, taxed or levied. It's no different to any other focussed environment whether it be a school, or heck, een a dancing academy.

ps. I agree with everything OzKo said above so no need for me to merely repeat what has already been said.

 

[Internet_Police]

I was from a selective high school and I'm proud of it. I've done reasonably well out of it and I now pay my fair share of taxes to the government to support the next generation of people in public schools including selectives. Being in a selective school by no means guarantees future success in any shape or form. Just like going to university.

Offering an environment which focuses on academia as opposed to sports or some other belief or focus should not be shunned, taxed or levied. It's no different to any other focussed environment whether it be a school, or heck, een a dancing academy.

ps. I agree with everything OzKo said above so no need for me to merely repeat what has already been said.

If nothing else, it does make it 90 times easier to get a university scholarship.

Especially shit like UNSW Co op. Only selective/private school people get into that.

$15 000/yr for the life of the degree plus interships, work experience and a pretty good chance of going straight into a job when you graduate etc etc. Get that and you are completely set for life.

 

[kaz1]

If nothing else, it does make it 90 times easier to get a university scholarship.

Especially shit like UNSW Co op. Only selective/private school people get into that.

$15 000/yr for the life of the degree plus interships, work experience and a pretty good chance of going straight into a job when you graduate etc etc. Get that and you are completely set for life.

What? No it doesn't.

 

[mirakon]

If nothing else, it does make it 90 times easier to get a university scholarship.

Especially shit like UNSW Co op. Only selective/private school people get into that.

$15 000/yr for the life of the degree plus interships, work experience and a pretty good chance of going straight into a job when you graduate etc etc. Get that and you are completely set for life.

You,re quite.obviously forgetting the bazillion uni schemes for those coming from financial disadvantage

 

[Internet_Police]

You,re quite.obviously forgetting the bazillion uni schemes for those coming from financial disadvantage

There are hardly any, no where near the amount of Co op scholarships they give out. Also, they pay far less. It's like probably a one off payment of $4000 or something.

Also, a fair few of them are for people that live far away from UNSW, that still doesn't exclude wealthy. Seriously, you chose where you wanted to live, if you live no where near unsw then don't come here.

 

[Lolsmith]

There are hardly any, no where near the amount of Co op scholarships they give out. Also, they pay far less. It's like probably a one off payment of $4000 or something.

Also, a fair few of them are for people that live far away from UNSW, that still doesn't exclude wealthy. Seriously, you chose where you wanted to live, if you live no where near unsw then don't come here.

you had me going until "chose where you live"

so I'll give you 3/10 that's the best I can do

 

[Kent12]

Lentern you are a bender. Furthermore I too believe that white Australian students are disadvantaged by the percieved 'academic superiority' of other races. It's a harmful mentality, and not a racist one

 

[Azure]

There are hardly any, no where near the amount of Co op scholarships they give out. Also, they pay far less. It's like probably a one off payment of $4000 or something.

Also, a fair few of them are for people that live far away from UNSW, that still doesn't exclude wealthy. Seriously, you chose where you wanted to live, if you live no where near unsw then don't come here.

Come on man, you know it doesn't work like that. Housing costs money. Money is not unlimited. People are confined to the boundaries of their wealth when making a decision as to where they live.

 

[twinklegal19]

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg...nce_nsw_selectives_schools_have_been_hijacked

This topic had already been published in an article two years ago, it's not like it's breaking news or anything. You can find out each school's socio-economic status from the My School website since it first came out.