who gives a fuck about 9/11 (5 Viewers)

[zombie omie jay]

There is no justification for this disrespect to either Hitler or Stalin, regardless of their acts.

Why don't you argue back if you think my post "isn't real"? All opinion but no substantiation behind your thoughts.

m8

 

[kwu1]

Touche. I need some sleep haha :/

Having said that, it doesn't mean that I agree with what you are saying.

 

[clissold]

I care..

 

[Lolsmith]

did you just miss the entire point of what i was saying? your geographical point of birth is extremely important. hence, if you were born in america, into an american family (thus you were not australian, hence why I pointed out you being australian) you would be far more likely to care. "I probably wouldn't [care] if I was an America", you probably would.

Yeah I realised after I posted, my bad

of course there is some glorification which is fucking stupid, but elements of humility are also clear. the civics and citizenship curriculum does not teach about our military exploits (such as in the north african campaign or on the western front). it focuses on gallipoli as shitty, sordid affair and focuses on the non-military triumphs of certain characters (e.g. simpson and the donkey, and whoever that bloke was who masterminded our retreat), and how the english fucked us over. of course this teaching serves the purpose of bolstering australian national myths, but it's not about australia civilising and policing the world like it is in America.

edit: in fact i'd argue the civics and citizenship curriculum goes to great lengths to remind kids how horrible and discriminatory our past has been (women, aboriginals, WAP etc.) cultural marxists!!!!!!!!!!

If that's the case then why are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan if it's meant to show that the military has done some major clusterfucks in the past, especially after a whole decade of conflict. Australians didn't learn anything about these things except for the parts that said "brave soldiers" or "courageous battlers" and apply that to the modern military hence why they're greeted as heroes for doing very little to nothing.

Again, if people learn so much from the curriculum, why are we treating asylum seekers as cancer

 

[funkshen]

can we get an ibbi or someone super controversial in here (not apathetic)

 

[Lolsmith]

He'd probably just blame Israel

 

[Lolsmith]

also Stop the Boats

^

Further evidence to how we haven't progressed, we've just moved on to different targets

 

[kwu1]

also Stop the Boats

^

Further evidence to how we haven't progressed, we've just moved on to different targets

Agreed.

 

[funkshen]

If that's the case then why are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan if it's meant to show that the military has done some major clusterfucks in the past, especially after a whole decade of conflict. Australians didn't learn anything about these things except for the parts that said "brave soldiers" or "courageous battlers" and apply that to the modern military hence why they're greeted as heroes for doing very little to nothing.

Again, if people learn so much from the curriculum, why are we treating asylum seekers as cancer

ah, this is the real crux of the issue. what do we learn from history? perhaps, not a whole lot.

but first of all, the majority of the population was not educated under the current curriculum. secondly, the civics and citizenship doesn't completely shape our children's beliefs (thank fuck). thirdly, world events, the media, and social/political leaders all have an equally important, if not more so, in shaping our perceptions (particularly on foreign policy). fourthly, i would argue for the inertia of beliefs and practices (e.g. national myths etc.)

it doesn't appear to me that any society has gotten over treating military men as heroes. some things are just rusted on.

edit: just realised this whole post is fucking stupid and i don't give many shits about anything it contains.

 

[zombie omie jay]

fucking stop the boats

what is this country

 

[funkshen]

will onshore processing cause CIVIL UNREST?

edit: we now witness godwin's law (of stop the boats, not nazis)

 

[zombie omie jay]

relevant

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...larmist-nonsense/story-fn9hm1gu-1226132630280

600 reffos a month!!

thats 7200 a year!!

288,000 in 40yrs!!!

thats almost half of the refugees we have taken in the past 40yrs lol omg moral panic

 

[zombie omie jay]

I care..

y

 

[funkshen]

your thoughts on smuggling kingpin Haji Sakhi?

edit: fuck gotta go to work, alter cunce

 

[zombie omie jay]

Yeah I realised after I posted, my bad


If that's the case then why are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan if it's meant to show that the military has done some major clusterfucks in the past, especially after a whole decade of conflict. Australians didn't learn anything about these things except for the parts that said "brave soldiers" or "courageous battlers" and apply that to the modern military hence why they're greeted as heroes for doing very little to nothing.

Again, if people learn so much from the curriculum, why are we treating asylum seekers as cancer

and this is why i hate people m8

 

[Blastus]

pretty much sums it up

 

[zombie omie jay]

israel forever though

 

[cosmo kramer]

i love how libs like to use words like "progressed" to suggest that every view that they don't like is something that if rejected and moved away from we're "moving forward" thus insinuating that we're improving ourselves

 

[zombie omie jay]

good old Israel forever
they know how to get along
side by side we stick together
to proudly extol the virtues of Judaism and crush those who oppose us

 

[cosmo kramer]

israel attack the government buildings of your allies in false flag incidents and spy on them all the time then put your hand out for more aid plz