Nsw state election : Who will you be voting? (2 Viewers)

[Lentern]

I stopped reading after this.

Well it is to your detriment as well as that of your fellow New South Welsh man and women.

 

[jb_nc]

LDP/Greens/Shooters/Coaliton/Hitler/Labor

in that order

 

[blue_chameleon]

Well it is to your detriment as well as that of your fellow New South Welsh man and women.

Not really hey.

Especially not if I don't intend on staying in NSW.

 

[Will Shakespear]

I stopped reading after this.

i'm sure they're great guys under all the corruption, waste, general failure to address pressing issues, oh and pedophilia, lol

 

[jb_nc]

i'm sure they're great guys under all the corruption, waste, general failure to address pressing issues, oh and pedophilia, lol

too busy to fix hospitals

 

[blue_chameleon]

too busy to fix hospitals

It'S nOt ThEiR fAuLt ThOuGh GaI's, It'S tHe GlObAl FiNaNcIaL cRiSiS!!1!!!

Lentern, in all seriousness though, i'm interested in hearing from your point of view, where you think the NSW Labor Govt have failed since Carr gained office? Potential election promises and/or pressing issues the state has faced.

Dot points will suffice.

 

[Lentern]

Not really hey.

Especially not if I don't intend on staying in NSW.

No that would be to the betterment of NSW.

It'S nOt ThEiR fAuLt ThOuGh GaI's, It'S tHe GlObAl FiNaNcIaL cRiSiS!!1!!!

Lentern, in all seriousness though, i'm interested in hearing from your point of view, where you think the NSW Labor Govt have failed since Carr gained office? Potential election promises and/or pressing issues the state has faced.

Dot points will suffice.

My friend in all seriousness, I have time and time again stated that NSW labor has flogged assetts leaving it without long term sources of revenue, underfunded essential services and undertaxed throughout the course of the government. I simply have issues with those who think the fiscally conservative party is going to save an underfunded state and that a government who had done much the same thing throughout it's years was lauded for the first eight and become increasingly criticised ever since.

 

[blue_chameleon]

No that would be to the betterment of NSW.

Of course it would be.

...NSW labor has flogged assetts leaving it without long term sources of revenue, underfunded essential services and undertaxed throughout the course of the government. I simply have issues with those who think the fiscally conservative party is going to save an underfunded state and that a government who had done much the same thing throughout it's years was lauded for the first eight and become increasingly criticised ever since.

All your arguments are doing are simply shifting focus by saying 'well, by their policies, these guys can't do any better'. There's nothing constructive in that, and it mirrors the responses from the current govt in their cliched excuses for where they have taken the state.

What has to happen to 'save' this underfunded state, eh? Once again, dot points would be nice.

 

[Lentern]

Of course it would be.

All your arguments are doing are simply shifting focus by saying 'well, by their policies, these guys can't do any better'. There's nothing constructive in that, and it mirrors the responses from the current govt in their cliched excuses for where they have taken the state.

What has to happen to 'save' this underfunded state, eh? Once again, dot points would be nice.

Look up at the top of the page, click on the link that lists those who hath voted for labor and my name be not among them. At some point before I said that the labor party would kill NSW more slowly than libs.

 

[Kujah]

EDIT: Unless things do improve dramatically and rapidly in the next two years (highly unlikely with all this bitter factional fighting), then my vote's going to the Liberals.

 

[jb_nc]

Unless things don't improve dramatically and rapidly (highly likely with all this bitter factional fighting), then its the Liberals.

i think we can be assured of that

 

[spiny norman]

All your arguments are doing are simply shifting focus by saying 'well, by their policies, these guys can't do any better'. There's nothing constructive in that, and it mirrors the responses from the current govt in their cliched excuses for where they have taken the state.

What has to happen to 'save' this underfunded state, eh? Once again, dot points would be nice.

Lentern sometimes shits me, but he's right on this. Everything Labor has been criticised for (excessive road privatisation, less funding for hospitals and schools, little public transport infrastructure, attempting to privatise electricity) are all things I believe the Liberals will do to a greater extent. In the 1993 federal election people were pissed that Labor under Hawke and continuing under Keating had become too economic rationalist, but in Hewson and Fightback they had the absolute epitome of economic rationalism.

So too is it here. While I think what Labor's doing in many areas is shit, I believe the Coalition will do the same times ten.

 

[tinfoilhat]

for me no matter how badly labour screws things up liberals will do worse
so my votes labour purely because i hate liberals more
or i might just vote greens..

 

[blue_chameleon]

for me no matter how badly labour screws things up liberals will do worse
so my votes labour purely because i hate liberals more
or i might just vote greens..

Real smart voting thar.

 

[tinfoilhat]

If life is that bad for you just kill yourself.

oh but i'm as happy as the dude in your avatar!


i will always vote for whoever's more left..... even if they'd fucked up big time
it would be against my religion to vote for the conservatives

@blue chameleon: scary thing is there's people that actually vote like that

 

[Trefoil]

Left == theft.

Right is the only way.

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

Fuck that ideological shit I'm gonna sit in the centre and nick whatever policy either side proposes that is appropriate to the current situation.

 

[tinfoilhat]

Left == theft.

Right is the only way.

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

if it's not right, it's wrong..?

 

[Lentern]

Left == theft.

Right is the only way.

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

Howard gave people economic freedom and they fucked up.

 

[moll.]

And now the are suffering the consequences for their fucking up. If you have the slightest idea about money and how to handle it and are a committed and hard-working individual, then you will probably walk out of this recession fine.

 

[Trefoil]

Howard gave people economic freedom and they fucked up.

I'm sorry, what?

Australia has basically the strongest and most stable economy in the world. That includes our fundamentals like average joe blow's quality of life and financial situation, as well as the regulatory framework of our financial institutions. Howard largely just maintained the status quo of the Hawke-Keating years in terms of economic policy, with some extra tweaking like the GST (which Hawke initially proposed anyway). I'm not about to give him much credit for coasting on Hawke's reforms and the mining boom, but he sure as heck didn't dig us into a hole or anything (WorkChoices was dead within a year).

If anything, this crisis has been a boon for average joe because it significantly eases food costs, petrol costs, and mortgages costs.

I have absolutely no idea how you can possibly conflate America's financial crash with any sort of 'fuck up' here