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But what prestige does a GP have?

None.


Bucks?

You could get the same working many other jobs.


Chicks?

Please. You're probably an ugly basement Asian.
 

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Exactly. Arcadian, Can you stop telling people that they won't make it in because there's approx places and they don't have any chance! You don't know who the person is, you don't know how well they will go and you do not know how passionate they are! Even know there is limited places who's for you to say they have a bad chance or will never have any hope of getting in.. Even though we may not know the work as well as you, who's for you to say we won't like the work or won't do the course because of the work?
Thankyou, Wannabesurgeon :)

But what prestige does a GP have?

None.


Bucks?

You could get the same working many other jobs.


Chicks?

Please. You're probably an ugly basement Asian.
Lol, this was my science teacher in year 8, "I could've been a doctor but I didn't want the long hours and I didn't want to be a GP because I could've made the same money for lesser work". Does Med at UNSW decides to become teacher... Kay...
 

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Thankyou, Wannabesurgeon :)



Lol, this was my science teacher in year 8, "I could've been a doctor but I didn't want the long hours and I didn't want to be a GP because I could've made the same money for lesser work". Does Med at UNSW decides to become teacher... Kay...
Well, it takes a long time to specialise and shiz.

Probs a wise choice if he/she wasn't that passionate about the work because good teachers can make a lot of money if they become principals of high-end private schools and shiz.
And some schools offer bonuses for the higher percentage of band 6s of year 12 students and stuff.
 
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Enough people - stop with the personal attacks and get back on topic.
 

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but dai so fun

how else 1 train 2 b hosue
You're quite disturbing.
But in response to your last comment: yes, yes you are. And please, when making 'counter arguments' in future, use correct grammar and spelling, it tends to make your opponent look smarter. Probably because it's true.

Proceed with the thread.
 
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You're quite disturbing.
But in response to your last comment: yes, yes you are. And please, when making 'counter arguments' in future, use correct grammar and spelling, it tends to make your opponent look smarter. Probably because it's true.

Proceed with the thread.
da english language h8s u 2 brudda

To keep this on topic so it doesn't get deleted, and my shrine of laughter can withstand the tests of time: remember that you'll all have plenty of time in med school (to those that make it in *cough*) to rotate through. Then you'll have time to rotate through during intern/resident years too. At the end of the day, you'll all probably change your minds 10000s times, and generally what med students want to do depends entirely on what they are studying at that particular time.
 
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My language is correct, sorry.
But what we can agree on is what you said after that...
 

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90% of med students say they want to do surgery in first year. a few 6am ward rounds and dozens of hours in theatre later, less than 10% actually end up being surgeons. thats the reality. pointless thread is pointless
 
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90% of med students say they want to do surgery in first year. a few 6am ward rounds and dozens of hours in theatre later, less than 10% actually end up being surgeons. thats the reality. pointless thread is pointless
No.. Dr Fresh as stated in the first post I said the below. Of course you will probably change your mind a gizillion times xD and that's why I did say the below.

Of course things might change but at the moment what would you like to do
 
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Anyway, I don't know if any of you guys know this, but this is aimed more at high school students. In the coming years, the way medicine will be taught will be changed again to a more Americanised model. Rather than doing an undergraduate degree, followed by residency then speciality, a more Americanised model will be focused on speciality streams from day 1. What this means is that you will start to train as a dermatologist, or cardiologist or what ever from day 1, which should reduce capacity constraints and reduce competition at later levels (since you pretty much get locked into your speciality). The advantage of such a model is that you can pump out specialists/physicians in 6-10 years as opposed to 10-15 years. Such a model would again be advantageous for the government as there would be higher level of geriatric care (ageing population etc)
 

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It's good to see that there is a healthy drive to pursue a career in health. For those who are unsure, take what everyone says with conviction with a grain of salt. They might be right but don't base your decision to pursue medicine on their response. If you want to do it, try. If you are unsure, you've already done the UMAT (I'm assuming) so there is no loss is trying any location possible. Good luck to all of you, there are intrinsic difficulties predicting what will happen but you can decide what happens now.
 

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It's good to see that there is a healthy drive to pursue a career in health. For those who are unsure, take what everyone says with conviction with a grain of salt. They might be right but don't base your decision to pursue medicine on their response. If you want to do it, try. If you are unsure, you've already done the UMAT (I'm assuming) so there is no loss is trying any location possible. Good luck to all of you, there are intrinsic difficulties predicting what will happen but you can decide what happens now.
Great post - probably the most important thing people should take from this thread.
 
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It's good to see that there is a healthy drive to pursue a career in health. For those who are unsure, take what everyone says with conviction with a grain of salt. They might be right but don't base your decision to pursue medicine on their response. If you want to do it, try. If you are unsure, you've already done the UMAT (I'm assuming) so there is no loss is trying any location possible. Good luck to all of you, there are intrinsic difficulties predicting what will happen but you can decide what happens now.
Thanks for this post :) . Well said!
 

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Anyway, I don't know if any of you guys know this, but this is aimed more at high school students. In the coming years, the way medicine will be taught will be changed again to a more Americanised model. Rather than doing an undergraduate degree, followed by residency then speciality, a more Americanised model will be focused on speciality streams from day 1. What this means is that you will start to train as a dermatologist, or cardiologist or what ever from day 1, which should reduce capacity constraints and reduce competition at later levels (since you pretty much get locked into your speciality). The advantage of such a model is that you can pump out specialists/physicians in 6-10 years as opposed to 10-15 years. Such a model would again be advantageous for the government as there would be higher level of geriatric care (ageing population etc)
oh that's fantastic news, thanks for the post. For myself and others, alot of people aren't interested in becoming a traditional doctor, but something more particular (for myself, psychiatry). I've also heard of plans to change it from MBBS to MD, and really- I see no reason why it should take someone 10 + years to become a dermatologist.

As shallow as this question may be: do you think that this move will impact on salaries/ HECS, etc?
 

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Anyway, I don't know if any of you guys know this, but this is aimed more at high school students. In the coming years, the way medicine will be taught will be changed again to a more Americanised model. Rather than doing an undergraduate degree, followed by residency then speciality, a more Americanised model will be focused on speciality streams from day 1. What this means is that you will start to train as a dermatologist, or cardiologist or what ever from day 1, which should reduce capacity constraints and reduce competition at later levels (since you pretty much get locked into your speciality). The advantage of such a model is that you can pump out specialists/physicians in 6-10 years as opposed to 10-15 years. Such a model would again be advantageous for the government as there would be higher level of geriatric care (ageing population etc)
I really doubt this will come into effect and if it does it would be a terrible move. As a doctor you have to know how to treat a patient holistically taking into account all of their health issues. E.g if you are a cardiologist treating a patient with heart failure who also has a psychiatric disorder, you wouldn't know how to approach these patients unless you do a psychiatry rotation in ur med student and jmo years let alone know what implications their mental health will have on their heart disease (compliance with meds, education etc). Spending the years rotating through all the specialties even if you hate them and will never pursue them makes you a better/more competent. There shouldn't be any of this short cutting just so u can get into the program u want a few years earlier.
 

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I didn't do too well at the UMAT (70~percentile), but the uni I attend does not take that into account (mbbs/medsci).

If you get a high enough ATAR (99.75-99.95) you are basically guaranteed at one of the 4 mbbs/medsci combined uni degrees. So keep that in mind.
Which unis have that combined degree program? I only know of Sydney, but I haven't really looked into med interstate yet.

As for me, I think I'd like to do either pathology, psychiatry or emergency medicine.
 

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