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Re: HSC 2016 4U Marathon - Advanced Level

If you noticed I commented on the unedited version of his post. The unedited one had Which wouldnt allow A to be a multiple of 2 for all real values of the RHS.
I think the other guy's proof is valid. You have A^2 = 2X, where A and X are both integers. Now consider if A is odd, i.e A = 2n+1 then A^2 = 4n^2 + 4n + 1 = 2(2n^2 + 2n) + 2 = 2m + 1 (n, m are integers). Therefore if A is odd, the A^2 is odd which is a contradiction, so A can't odd. If A is even then A = 2n, then A^2 = 2(2n^2) = 2m i.e A^2 is even if A is even. This works and therefore A must be even QED. No ? The only other possibility is if A is not an integer, but it is stated in the first place that it is, so the proof holds.
 

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You dont have to assume most of those results as they are given to be positive.
Another reason you don't need to assume some of them is that negative integers can be even and odd too, so you only need to know these three: odd + odd = even, odd + even = odd, even + even = even. (Or even simpler, if the two numbers being added have the same parity, the sum is even, and if the two numbers being added have different parity, then the sum is odd.)
 

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Another reason you don't need to assume some of them is that negative integers can be even and odd too, so you only need to know these three: odd + odd = even, odd + even = odd, even + even = even. (Or even simpler, if the two numbers being added have the same parity, the sum is even, and if the two numbers being added have different parity, then the sum is odd.)
Can you or sy or someone post a difficult problem?
 

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You can just do Sy123's one from the first page, since no-one's answered it yet:
Notice that the derivative of lnx /x is (1-lnx)/x^2, which <0 if x>e, so f(x)= lnx /x is a strictly decreasing function for x>e. Thus if y>x>e, there is no positive integer solutions for x^y=y^x (since this rearranges to form lnx/x=lny/y). So we only have to test for integers between 0 and e.
if x= 1 then trivially y=1 but since x=/=y this doesn't count. If x= 2, the only positive integer solution for y=4. By symmetry, (x,y):(4,2) is another solution.
 

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Notice that the derivative of lnx /x is (1-lnx)/x^2, which <0 if x>e, so f(x)= lnx /x is a decreasing function for x>e. Thus if y>x>e, there is no positive integer solutions for x^y=y^x. So we only have to test for integers in 0<x<e, if x= 1 then trivially y=1 but since x=/=y this doesn't count. If x= 2, the only positive integer solution for y=4. By symmetry, (x,y):(4,2) is another solution.
Well done
 

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Do you have a difficult problem to share with us?
All topics?

Some ones that I can think of on the top of head that don't require any 4U knowledge:

 

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Here is a good question (not too mechanical)



 

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Here is a good question (not too mechanical)



Consider P(x)-Q(x)= R(x), this has infinite roots, and the only polynomial with infinite roots is R(x)=0. Thus, R(z) is also =0 for all complex numbers z, and hence P(x)=Q(x) for all complex numbers as well
 

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Related:

Find all polynomials p(z) such that p(cis(t))=p(cis(t+a)) for all t, where a is a given positive number.

You may need to consider cases.
 

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Related:

Find all polynomials p(z) such that p(cis(t))=p(cis(t+a)) for all t, where a is a given positive number.

You may need to consider cases.
















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Very close.

Why must p(z)-p(t) have exactly q roots in the rational multiple of pi case? Also are you saying this is true for all t? Or some particular choice of t?

I agree that if t is nonzero, then p(z)-p(t) must have at LEAST q roots.
 
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Revamping solution (and making some of the inferences more rigorous), had fun writing this

Related:

Find all polynomials p(z) such that p(cis(t))=p(cis(t+a)) for all t, where a is a given positive number.

You may need to consider cases.




































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Revamping solution (and making some of the inferences more rigorous), had fun writing this

























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Tell me if I'm going full weirdo mode but isn't this factorization only true if q is odd?

I'm talking about the part where you factorised (t+h)^q-t^q
 

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Tell me if I'm going full weirdo mode but isn't this factorization only true if q is odd?

I'm talking about the part where you factorised (t+h)^q-t^q
You're thinking of the factorisation of (t+h)^q + t^q



 
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