Australia MIGHT go into a recession (1 Viewer)

[Tony Stark]

Ok so people are just gonna be ignorant to the fact that land was stolen by the British, Whilst immigrants other than those British have to wait years to be accepted? Australia was built on slavery and colonisation.

Not this yada yada about nothing existing here before the british. Aboriginal people are the true owners of this land.

European immigrants and their descendants are the ones who built this country out of nothing

the people who were conscripted to risk their lives fighting for Australia in three different wars

Also, key-word here is conscripted. The reason they fought in the war was because they were legally obliged to. Now we have consent, and people do not have to do something they do not want to do.

Have you forgotten that most immigrants come from war-torn countries? And that a lot of these countries, Australia fought against?

You are ignoring so much in your little rant about british superiority and immigrant arrogance.

The arrogance of non-western immigrants today is truly incredible, when they come from populations who have accomplished so very little

Also when you are saying this, do you mean refugees or immigrants in general? Becuase immigrants come from many countries, some more developed than others. The generalisation in your argument is astounding to say the least.

I think its stupid to be complaining about how the NAPLAN shouldnt be on during Ramadan

Have you actually heard any Muslim person complaining about NAPLAN? Are Muslim people the only people that complain about NAPLAN, because I hear plenty of trash-talk coming from other kids. Stop confusing religion with culture, because they are too different things. And what do you say about Lent? That religious tradition also includes fasting.

same nonsense from overseas (sexism, racism, sectarianism, homophobia etc).

I just can not understand how un-educated some people are. Sexism, racism, sectarianism, homophobia, e.t.c are not just practiced by immigrants. Only in 1968 were Aboriginal people properly allowed to vote in all of Australia, and only in through the Crimes (Sexual Assault) Amendment Act (1981) NSW were women in a marriage legally empowered to sue their spouse because of rape.

Again, you are pretending the 'people who bult this country out of nothing' weren't convicts that were literlally sent to Australia as punishment for comitting acts of racism, sexism, e.t.c. If they deserved to come here, than so do refugees and immigrants.

 

[enoilgam]

Have you actually heard any Muslim person complaining about NAPLAN? Are Muslim people the only people that complain about NAPLAN, because I hear plenty of trash-talk coming from other kids. Stop confusing religion with culture, because they are too different things. And what do you say about Lent? That religious tradition also includes fasting.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-17/ramadan-and-fasting-during-naplan-tests/105052358. Christians don't complain about lent being during NAPLAN season. Even if they did, there should be no special treatment (given that NAPLAN is during Lent this year, Id say they arent getting any).

I just can not understand how un-educated some people are. Sexism, racism, sectarianism, homophobia, e.t.c are not just practiced by immigrants. Only in 1968 were Aboriginal people properly allowed to vote in all of Australia, and only in through the Crimes (Sexual Assault) Amendment Act (1981) NSW were women in a marriage legally empowered to sue their spouse because of rape.

Australia is far less sexist, racist, sectarian and homophobic compared to other nations. Do we want to compare our laws on those issues to countries like Pakistan, Indian, China or even some Eastern European countries? You will find Australia far more "Liberal" on that front. All Im saying is when you come here, an effort should be made to integrate and adopt our values. It's basic courtesy, it shouldnt be controversial.

 

[Tony Stark]

I don't think the biggest problem of a refugee is 'fitting in with the cool guys'. Life is not high school where everyone worries about fitting in; A job, home, and food and water are far more important. Also, I did not say that Muslim people fasting for Ramadan should get special treatment. The people in the quoted media article do not represent the Muslim demographic of Australia. They represent themselves as people, not a religion.

If we are to shame people for acting different, believing in different things, or practicing different religious traditions (in case you were wondering, sexism, racism, sectarianism, homophobia, e.t.c are not part of Islam), Australian people should be doing more to accept those who have experienced displacement from their home-country. Because Australia certainly isn't warm enough to respect these traditions.

I am not justifying sexism, racism, sectarianism, homophobia, e.t.c., I am saying that these issues exist in Australia regardless of the refugee intake.

Australia is far less sexist, racist, sectarian and homophobic compared to other nations.

I agree.
It is an individual's morals that should be judged, not where they come from. Or what they look like. Or what they believe in religiously. Or what traditions they practice. Or the language they speak.

Prejudice will get us nowhere; you are confusing the laws of a country versus the morals of a person. Laws often reflect the morals of politicians, especially in countries with more power imbalance. So do not judge a person's morals based on the laws of the country they come from.

 

[its_ace21]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-17/ramadan-and-fasting-during-naplan-tests/105052358. Christians don't complain about lent being during NAPLAN season. Even if they did, there should be no special treatment (given that NAPLAN is during Lent this year, Id say they arent getting any).

ramadan and lent are two different things tho, theyre not the same type of fasting, and its not all muslims like tony said, trust me most muslims dont mind