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Car bailout deal fails in US Senate

THE US Senate have failed to reach a deal on a controversial multi-billion dollar bailout for the beleaguered car industry, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said.

"I'm terribly disappointed that we are not able to arrive at a conclusion,'' Mr Reid said after lawmakers spent hours trying to hammer out a compromise over proposed federal loans for the Detroit automakers.

"We have tried very, very hard to arrive at a point where we could legislate for the automobile industry.''

"I dread looking at Wall Street tomorrow.
It's not going to be a pleasant sight. Millions of Americans, not only the auto workers but people who sell cars, car dealerships, people who work on cars are going to be directly impacted and affected,'' Mr Reid said.

Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said his allies in the Senate felt that the rescue package which consisted of some $14 billion in short-term loans, would not succeed in rescuing major automakers from the brink of collapse.

"None of us want to see them go down but very few of us had anything to do with the dilemma that they've created for themselves,'' said Mr McConnell.

"And so the question was: 'Is there a way out?' and the administration negotiated in good faith with the Democratic majority a proposal that was simply unacceptable to the vast majority of our side because we thought it, frankly, wouldn't work.''

The Senate failure to reach accord means that any Government backed bailout of the US auto sector will likely have to wait until next year.

The House of Representatives passed its version of the rescue plan for Detroit's automakers on Wednesday but the proposal met stiff opposition from Republicans, sending lawmakers hustling to make adjustments.

The legislation would have provided General Motors and Chrysler bridge loans to operate until March 31, and required a restructuring plan to ensure their long-term survival while repaying Government aid.

Republican Senator Bob Corker, who spearheaded the alternative proposal, attributed the breakdown to differences over employee compensation, and said that a union representative from the United Auto Workers was present for the talks.

"This is a highly technical matter, involved volunteer employed benefit accounts, it involved bonds, it involved all kinds of discussions that were technical in nature,'' Mr Corker said.

"And through all of that, and we had the United Auto Workers representative in the room, we had the three companies in another room. We were talking to bondholders on the phone. Certainly talking to our colleagues,'' he added.
"We are about three words away from a deal.''

Democrat Chris Dodd, chairman of the Senate banking committee, lamented the breakdown, particularly with the holidays approaching.

"We will leave here tonight and go home for the holiday recesses but for the literally hundreds of thousands of people whose jobs depend upon this industry, this will not be a joyous season wondering whether or not their jobs, their livelihoods, their homes, their children's futures are at risk,'' Mr Dodd said.

"It is disheartening to me, to put it mildly, that we were unable to come to that agreement.''

After warning it could run out of money within weeks, GM acknowledged ahead of the vote that it was considering "all options'' including bankruptcy
, and had hired a team of legal advisers.
Oh dear, GM looks like it's going down.

The US Senate rejected the bail out because they didn't think the cash would stop the car makers from collapsing. Looks like they're on their own now.

http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,24790284-462,00.html
 

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Well, this is going to be interesting.

GM owns Holden in Australia - largest car manufacturer here, right?
 

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someone post that chart showing like a minimum +2% to all states unemployment rates if this shit wasnt passed

america is fucked now
 

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lol if i lived in detroit id be buying some semi autos right about now

cause fallout 3 is coming to town
 

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its not as though 3 large manufacturing companies are intangibly connected to the american economy or anything

*fartz*

*gets paid $75/hr*
 

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zimmerman8k said:
They contribute nothing to the economy.
[Citation needed]

They simply waste resources that are redistributed to them through tax and inflation from companies that are actually productive.
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As people loose their jobs, there will be a short term restructuring of the economy, which will be painful for some people.
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But in the long run, everyone will be much better off.
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Works Cited: Rand, A (1957). Atlas Shrugged. Random House, New York.
 

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John Oliver said:
Wooooohoooo! Eat shit Unions!
Yeah, damn those unions - forming groups big and powerful enough to rival the employers so that individually impotent employees don't get totally butt-fucked by their boss.
 

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John Oliver said:
Have nothing against unions, am a union delegate. Hate unions that are like $120USd an HOUR. dude

srsly

guys

guys

srsly

I don't give a shit death to america death to america
That $120 an hour (I think it was 75 USD/hr) factored in stuff like health care (which the stupid government doesn't provide) and pensions to former employees.

So, the "$120 hour" figure is fallacious to begin with. I'll see if I can dig up something debunking it.
 

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Autoworker wage and benefit differences

By The Associated Press – 7 hours ago

Hourly wages for United Auto Workers laborers at General Motors Corp. factories actually are almost equal to those paid by Toyota Motor Corp. at its older U.S. factories, according to the companies. GM says the average UAW laborer makes $29.78 per hour, while Toyota says it pays about $30 per hour.

The difference is in benefits, with the unionized factories having far higher costs.

GM says its total hourly labor costs are now $69 including wages, pensions and health care for active workers, plus the pension and health care costs of more than 432,000 retirees and spouses. Toyota says its total costs are around $48. The Japanese automaker has far fewer retirees and its pension and health care benefits are not as rich as those paid to UAW workers.

The UAW has not been able to organize workers at a Toyota plant in this country; it does represent workers at one joint GM-Toyota plant in Fremont, Calif.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i6nLJ8iXSpohCBnQU2KERTaw_VYgD950S0A84
 

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lol if GM fails the government will have to pay around 432 000 more pensions + health care

lol
 

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jb_nc said:
lol if GM fails the government will have to pay around 432 000 more pensions + health care

lol
For a short period yes, until some entrepreneur comes and employs these gentlemen in a productive industry.

EDIT: Unionist scum who refuse to back down should not receive these benefits. Discuss.
 

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withoutaface said:
For a short period yes, until some entrepreneur comes and employs these gentlemen in a productive industry.
Such as the government?

Sounds p commie comming from u
 

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John Oliver said:
Have nothing against unions, am a union delegate. Hate unions that are like $120USd an HOUR. dude

srsly

guys

guys

srsly

I don't give a shit death to america death to america
 

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withoutaface said:
EDIT: Unionist scum who refuse to back down should not receive these benefits. Discuss.
ban

all

unions
 

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