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ohh if you still have it share? i haven't read enough on it to talk about it properlyheavy on the cubist inspo actually!! i read something about that. super insightful!
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ohh if you still have it share? i haven't read enough on it to talk about it properlyheavy on the cubist inspo actually!! i read something about that. super insightful!
He practised French conversation with friends, attended Bergson's lectures, frequented bars and nightclubs, absorbing the atmosphere and looking for some meaning behind the “sordid images” of the streets and cafés. Although we have no documentary evidence, it seems very probable that as a former student of art Eliot attended the Cubist exhibitions. There are striking correspondences between early Cubist art and the poems Eliot was working on at this time—“Prufrock”, the third and fourth parts of “Preludes”, “Rhapsody on a Windy Night” and the almost completed “Portrait of a Lady”. One hesitates to insist on a direct influence, but there are always parallel lines of development, cross currents, links, both conscious and unconscious, between writers, thinkers and artists living at the same time. It is possible that in the canvases being exhibited and discussed in Paris at the time, Eliot found tendencies that chimed with his own. He certainly had not found any inspiration in contemporary poetry. Looking back on this period, Eliot wrote that he could not then think of “a single living poet, in either England or America … at the height of his powers, whose work was capable of pointing the way to a young poet conscious of the desire for a new idiom”.3 It seems therefore not unlikely that Cubist art suggested technical possibilities which reinforced those he had absorbed from his literary mentors, the French poets Baudelaire, Laforgue and Corbière, and the Elizabethan dramatists.ohh if you still have it share? i haven't read enough on it to talk about it properly
I predict there will be words cause there’s no way there can be words. That will be way to difficult.i predict there will be questions
thank you so much!!He practised French conversation with friends, attended Bergson's lectures, frequented bars and nightclubs, absorbing the atmosphere and looking for some meaning behind the “sordid images” of the streets and cafés. Although we have no documentary evidence, it seems very probable that as a former student of art Eliot attended the Cubist exhibitions. There are striking correspondences between early Cubist art and the poems Eliot was working on at this time—“Prufrock”, the third and fourth parts of “Preludes”, “Rhapsody on a Windy Night” and the almost completed “Portrait of a Lady”. One hesitates to insist on a direct influence, but there are always parallel lines of development, cross currents, links, both conscious and unconscious, between writers, thinkers and artists living at the same time. It is possible that in the canvases being exhibited and discussed in Paris at the time, Eliot found tendencies that chimed with his own. He certainly had not found any inspiration in contemporary poetry. Looking back on this period, Eliot wrote that he could not then think of “a single living poet, in either England or America … at the height of his powers, whose work was capable of pointing the way to a young poet conscious of the desire for a new idiom”.3 It seems therefore not unlikely that Cubist art suggested technical possibilities which reinforced those he had absorbed from his literary mentors, the French poets Baudelaire, Laforgue and Corbière, and the Elizabethan dramatists.
SORRY ABT THE GIANT BLOCK OF TEXT HAHA. This isn't EXACTLY what I read but it's pretty spot on.
I wish it could be 6 7. Maybe 16/4 or 11/9 or 13/7. I’m just trying to think of weird number combosinsane
if theres a split... i predict 12/8
make the split 9/11 for laughsI wish it could be 6 7. Maybe 16/4 or 11/9 or 13/7.
Wait guys 6/14. Cause 6 and then 14 divided by 2 gives u 6 7 heheI wish it could be 6 7. Maybe 16/4 or 11/9 or 13/7. I’m just trying to think of weird number combos
6 7Wait guys 6/14. Cause 6 and then 14 divided by 2 gives u 6 7 hehe
Aren’t they all after the warAnother way to look at it is whether the poem is before or after the war.
Preludes, Rhapsody, Prufrock are pre-war so they have a modernist context.
Hollow and Magi are also modernist, but they link a lot better to wwI disillusionment.
preludes 1910, rhapsody 1911, prufrock 1915, hollow men 1925, magi 1927Aren’t they all after the war
Oldest one 1915?
noo only hollow men and magi are after warAren’t they all after the war
Oldest one 1915?
didn't the war end in 1918?Aren’t they all after the war
Oldest one 1915?
didnt it start in 1918didn't the war end in 1918?
wait actually am I dumbno it started in 1918
Nah what my Google sayspreludes 1910, rhapsody 1911, prufrock 1915, hollow men 1925, magi 1927
i fear it started in 1914...no it started in 1918
not sure tho im rlly bad w history
WAIT NO MY BAD UR RIGHT WAIT SORRYwait actually am I dumb
that's what I thought omg my hearti fear it started in 1914...