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There are more elegant ways to do 1st integral Sy.







You can either do it partial fracts or using the standard integrals not listed.



 
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if a quartic has four real roots in AP prove that its derivative has three real roots in AP.
 
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thanks so much bro
ur a good guy
yeah ill try my best answering them
try to answer the questions lol, what are you doing... you say something but you dont do it...you just wait for people to post you some questions....
 

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a couple of questions

what does a complex integral mean?

if the sum of 1/n is infinity then how can we take its log and use it in inequalities?
 

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a couple of questions

what does a complex integral mean?

if the sum of 1/n is infinity then how can we take its log and use it in inequalities?
I have not defined alpha nor z in the complex plane.

Would changing the order of iv and iii change the rigour issue here?
EDIT: Or rather how about changing it so we have only a partial sum and a partial product and consider the inequality of the limit instead?
 
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I have not defined alpha nor z in the complex plane.

Would changing the order of iv and iii change the rigour issue here?
wouldn't you still be logging something that might be infinity? (and is)
 

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wouldn't you still be logging something that might be infinity? (and is)
Alright what about taking the limit to infinity of a partial sum/product?

If not, what can I do to fix this?
 

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Alright what about taking the limit to infinity of a partial sum/product?

If not, what can I do to fix this?
i dont know man its your question, my ugess is that it works but makes the connection to primes more annoying.
 
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I think this involves converting the infinite sum to a limiting argument of the function 1/(1+x^2)...then letting that be an integral which turns into arctangent...which is between pi/4 and pi/2 between x=1 and x-> infinity but why is it strictly less than...hmm I'm missing something..
 

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I think this involves converting the infinite sum to a limiting argument of the function 1/(1+x^2)...then letting that be an integral which turns into arctangent...which is between pi/4 and pi/2 between x=1 and x-> infinity but why is it strictly less than...hmm I'm missing something..
Not sure what you mean by the first sentence. You are correct in that it involves the integral of 1/(1+x^2)
HINT: Notice how the upper bound is

 
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Lol that's what I meant, ie go back to the limit definition of an integral...

Wait how come your lower bound is now 0? (Typo?)
 

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Lol that's what I meant, ie go back to the limit definition of an integral...

Wait how come your lower bound is now 0? (Typo?)
Lower bound is pi/4 from the question, upper bound is pi/2. The lower limit of the integral is 0 however, and that integral that I just posted = pi/2
 

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Consider .

If we draw out the graph of and then draw out the lower rectangles of breadth 1 unit, we can determine that

Now we consider the upper rectangles, which leads us to





Edit: not sure if there is enough integration in this for you haha
 
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Consider .

If we draw out the graph of and then draw out the lower rectangles of breadth 1 unit, we can determine that

Now we consider the upper rectangles, which leads us to





Edit: not sure if there is enough integration in this for you haha
Correct - good job.

Alternatively consider:



Where we can justify the lower bound because the height of the biggest rectangle when we make the lower rectangles of 1/(1+x^2) is 1/2

Hence the area underneath 1/2 ( 1/(1+x^2) ) is always lower than the rectangles.
 

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Consider .

If we draw out the graph of and then draw out the lower rectangles of breadth 1 unit, we can determine that

Now we consider the upper rectangles, which leads us to





Edit: not sure if there is enough integration in this for you haha
There is a contradiction in your working.
 

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This may or may not bypass the rigour issues that happened last time I posted this idea as a question:







 
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Isn't it not the other way around? idk O_O

The 'proof' that

doesn't make sense either - e is just a constant, it shouldn't matter what n is doing! (I think it's a directional issue here)
 
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