Linux replaces Windows? (1 Viewer)

[McLake]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3090918.stm

 

[Winston]

yeah read about it a week ago

primarily due to all the instability and flaws lately with Windows

 

[babydoll_]

This is gonna sound incredibly n00by but what's Linux?

 

[Winston]

Originally posted by babydoll_
This is gonna sound incredibly n00by but what's Linux?

it's an alternative Operating System...

it's base is derived from Unix,
and it's a Open Source Operating System, meaning that the source code is public domain, anyone may access it

Alot of Computing users use it because it's stable, FREE, faster, is better , more features, and doesn't have much vulnerable aspects.

You would see that there are numerous Anti - Windows people, these are generall Linux or MAC users.

 

[iambored]

oh, ok
i don't like mac though
is it anything like that?

 

[Winston]

Originally posted by iambored
oh, ok
i don't like mac though
is it anything like that?

it's different...

MAC to be honest in my opinion has there own style of things, which is good

 

[Huy]

Mac is BSD/Unix.

I like Mac (note: Mac users hate it when PC users type MAC, as in MAC address).

It's an iMac, PowerBook, iBook, PowerMac, etc.
I don't own a Mac, but I would love to (since I've played around with some, used a few G3s/G4s, etc).

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/darwin.html

"The stability of Mac OS X begins with Darwin, an Open Source, UNIX-based foundation. Darwin is a complete BSD UNIX implementation, derived from the original 4.4BSD-Lite2 Open Source distribution. Darwin uses a monolithic kernel based on FreeBSD 4.4 and the OSF/mk Mach 3, combining BSDs POSIX support with the fine-grained multithreading and real-time performance of Mach."

 

[Winston]

Originally posted by Huy
Mac is BSD/Unix.

I like Mac (note: Mac users hate it when PC users type MAC, as in MAC address).

It's an iMac, PowerBook, iBook, PowerMac, etc.
I don't own a Mac, but I would love to (since I've played around with some, used a few G3s/G4s, etc).

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/darwin.html

"The stability of Mac OS X begins with Darwin, an Open Source, UNIX-based foundation. Darwin is a complete BSD UNIX implementation, derived from the original 4.4BSD-Lite2 Open Source distribution. Darwin uses a monolithic kernel based on FreeBSD 4.4 and the OSF/mk Mach 3, combining BSDs POSIX support with the fine-grained multithreading and real-time performance of Mach."

Yeah MAC to be honest is a great OS.. but too bad it's MACware dependent, and i dont own one to try it out more heh... but it's great it's got it's own unique style, the looks of the hardware the entire UI of the system it's superior

 

[Soliah]

MacOS, IMO is the best OS out there. I wish Apple would make a release on hardware other than it's own.

 

[Winston]

Originally posted by Soliah
MacOS, IMO is the best OS out there. I wish Apple would make a release on hardware other than it's own.

agreed...
ah well but i guess the OS itself was written in itself to suit the hardware they have

i think having just a set number of hardware types really eliminate alot of errors within the OS, as the OS doesn't have to be written to support 250000000000000 types of hdd, or RAM, or motherboards lol

 

[McLake]

Originally posted by Soliah
MacOS, IMO is the best OS out there.

Definately!!!

*Kisses 17" iMac*

 

[Soliah]

Originally posted by Winston
agreed...
ah well but i guess the OS itself was written in itself to suit the hardware they have

i think having just a set number of hardware types really eliminate alot of errors within the OS, as the OS doesn't have to be written to support 250000000000000 types of hdd, or RAM, or motherboards lol

Apple's use standard parts for RAM, HDDs, Video cards, Sound cards etc. The only part that is Apple specific is the processor.

Edit: Now that I think about it though, the way the RAM, AGP Slot and Processer interface on a PC (North Bridge) is probably different from that of the Mac. Still its obvious that if they did release MacOS for PC's it would be rewritten, and written well.

[Rant]

Macintosh OSX is arguably the best user operating system available at the moment, even I wont disagree with that. However Apple have dug themselves a hole in only supporting their own hardware. While from a "customer support" model this is an intelligent and worthy direction to move in, from a financial and share direction this is the one critical factor.

If Apple moved away from only supporting their own hardware and began support of at the very least, the ia64 standards for even the OSX Server (i386 would be nice for workstations however) then their OS market share, and thus the potential redirected to their "optimised hardware" would increase beyond imagination.

The single sole and only reason that Apple is losing market share, losing customers, and ultimately losing appeal is purely because their business model is fatally flawed. They are over specialising their market, and thus drowning themselves in their own idiocy.

Before the first Mac Zealot attempts to post sales figures and revenue, can we please first visualise the existing userbase purchasing trends over the past 10 years? With the advent of the PowerPC Mac's took off, and sales increased. At roughly OS8 sales reached a peak and died. The Mac userbase stopped spending money, and there wasnt any new blood (except education and govornment deals) feeding the pot.

Now, when iMac, the G range, and OSX were released, the existing Mac userbase went on a spending spree to "keep up to date" and this directly reflects on Apple's bottom line. So dont shove sales figures in my face - I am more than aware of the business trends of Apple and I am not blindly influenced by a single bottom line figure to ignore the actual REAL reasons behind its size.

MacOS had massive potential ... all Apple had to do is capitalise on this potential, which they didnt, and still wont, which is why Mac is a dead platform, not just dying, but dead. The developers are performing CPR by dumping new features and updates into the OS, but in reality Apple has flatlined and someone should sign the death certificate. The adrenaline charge that could recusitate Apple is supporting other architectures (ia64 and i386) ... but their hedonistic pride prevents this.

[/Rant]

 

[Huy]

I still want to play with Panther (OSX 10.3)
Have you seen FUS? (Fast User Switching).

Yes, the idea was "borrowed" from Microsoft, but the 'switching' between users is SO COOL!

ie desktop occupies 1 face of a cube, to change users, the cube rotates. (you can actually SEE the desktop being rotated and presented with the login-prompt for the next user). I'm not a Mac zealot, I don't own a Mac, so I'm just in the middle

About Apple though, they've updated their iPod line (40GB!) and also their iMac line (now with 1.25GHz)

If I'm to enter the Mac-world, that's one of the biggest things that'll interest me. Not only do they support my HDD, Video Card, Memory and so on, but I love the iPod

Let's not forget about the slick widescreen LCDs! *drool*

 

[Soliah]

LoL, a cube rotating. Reminds me of the mad |-|4x0r1|\|9 that occured in Swordfish

 

[-X-]

Their was (is?) a rumour that Apple are thiking of porting their OS for x86 processors. Would be great if its true.

If not, then there is no way im ever buying a MAC, especially with their prices.

 

[Huy]

Originally posted by Soliah
LoL, a cube rotating. Reminds me of the mad |-|4x0r1|\|9 that occured in Swordfish

It's really very cool, you've just got to see it in action to appreciate it

Originally posted by -X-
Their was (is?) a rumour that Apple are thiking of porting their OS for x86 processors. Would be great if its true.

I think you are getting confused with Darwin, (which isnt Mac OSX).

 

[-X-]

I know its not OSX. It must have been darwin though, was a long time when i read it.

 

[tactic]

wasnt OS/2 by ibm sort of similar to mac?

 

[Huy]

Originally posted by tactic
wasnt OS/2 by ibm sort of similar to mac?

That must have been before my time

 

[tactic]

you have never herd of it?
it was meant to be really stable.. it just never took off