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jk, it was about 0.41 mol/L.

0.028 = .17^2 * .17 / x
x^2 = .17^2 *.17 / 0.028
x^2 = 0.175
square root 0.175 = 0.41

Can confirm by plugging it back into the equation:
.17^2 * .17 / 0.41^2 = 0.28ish

The 0.41 is not exact as I didn't carry over the significant figures properly during the calculations.
 
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Never saying anything ever again until i know i'm right. gg, can't even capslock that.
 
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I got 0.84M for the NOCl equilibrium q and im like 99% sure thats the correct answer
 
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jk, it was about 0.41 mol/L.

0.028 = .17^2 * .17 / x
x^2 = .17^2 *.17 / 0.028
x^2 = 0.175
square root 0.175 = 0.41

Can confirm by plugging it back into the equation:
.17^2 * .17 / 0.41^2 = 0.28ish

The 0.41 is not exact as I didn't carry over the significant figures properly during the calculations.
Dude its 0.34^x 0.17/x^2


Your answer is wrong
 

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I thought value of K was Products over Reactants, which would mean it was:
0.028=[NOCl]^2/[0.34]^2*[0.17]
[NOCl]^2=0.028*[0.34]^2*[0.17]
[NOCl]=Sq Rt of above answer
I think I got 0.023
 

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i got full marks but i stuffed up the fucking solvay shit didn't touch that shit cause i thought it won't be in exam. RIP
 

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for the 7 marker, did we have to draw the structural formula for the different types of detergents
 

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hardly anyone gets 7 in those long responses.
to get 7 i rekon you had to talk about
a) saponification, definition of it, what a soap is, its structure
- draw its structure
- show why it is used as a cleaning agent (using all your like-like dissolves and micelles)
- relate that to use (personal hygiene for washing hands and body)
- show it forms scum with Mg Ca
- show its biodegradable

b) Anionic
- structure
- explain cleaning action
- forms soluble complex with Mg/Ca hence doesnt form scum, however the soluble complex are still annoying
- it originally had a non-linear carbon chain making it not biodegradable meaning it was common to see foam clog up waterways, later they rectified this by making the carbon chain linear
- use of phosphates, link to eutrophication
- use of detergent as general cleaning agent

- cationic detergent
- cation + SO3+ and benzene ring structure
- why it is impervious to Ca/Mg
- how it cleans
- Relate properties to use as hair washer
-due to lack of scum formed and a biodegradeable chain, generally non destructive to environment

-non ionic
- structure
- how it cleans
- where it originates from (crude oil), hence putting stress on oil reserves which, talk about environmental problems here
- use in washing machine

there are a few more i may have forgotten but i rekon thats how pedantic they will get. its quite alot to write
-
 

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hardly anyone gets 7 in those long responses.
to get 7 i rekon you had to talk about
a) saponification, definition of it, what a soap is, its structure
- draw its structure
- show why it is used as a cleaning agent (using all your like-like dissolves and micelles)
- relate that to use (personal hygiene for washing hands and body)
- show it forms scum with Mg Ca
- show its biodegradable

b) Anionic
- structure
- explain cleaning action
- forms soluble complex with Mg/Ca hence doesnt form scum, however the soluble complex are still annoying
- it originally had a non-linear carbon chain making it not biodegradable meaning it was common to see foam clog up waterways, later they rectified this by making the carbon chain linear
- use of phosphates, link to eutrophication
- use of detergent as general cleaning agent

- cationic detergent
- cation + SO3+ and benzene ring structure
- why it is impervious to Ca/Mg
- how it cleans
- Relate properties to use as hair washer
-due to lack of scum formed and a biodegradeable chain, generally non destructive to environment

-non ionic
- structure
- how it cleans
- where it originates from (crude oil), hence putting stress on oil reserves which, talk about environmental problems here
- use in washing machine

there are a few more i may have forgotten but i rekon thats how pedantic they will get. its quite alot to write
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For cations I thought it was a trimethylammonium ion?
 

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yeah i did most, if not all of that
just not the visual of te structures
 

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