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Where are all the unis that offer this? I know the major ones, USyd, UNSW, UNCLE, any others? and which is the best? and is USyd med significantly easier to get into since its grad entry only? thx
 

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Isn't UOW bringing in a Graduate Programme for MBBS?
 

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Ok, so not to sound harsh or anything but... which ones listed there will one come out of expecting a job?
 

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guessing ure in year 12..
Unimelb, Monash, Adelaide, James Cook, Western Australia, Tasmania will accept u for 2005

Originally posted by Giant Lobster
Ok, so not to sound harsh or anything but... which ones listed there will one come out of expecting a job?
all the courses are equivalent cos they are sanctioned by a federal body.. only diff is the quality of teaching, course type (most are pbl -problem based learning)
umm umemployment for MBBS grads is close to 0% ( same with dentistry) like incl rural areas

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ok whats an MBBS? Someone has to ask....
MBBS is latin abbrivation for bach of med/bach of surgery
 

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gamsat is significantly harder than umat, and therefore undergrad med is easier to get into as opposed to gradl well that's what the dean of the medical school at sydney told me at the information day
 

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Originally posted by Giant Lobster
Ok, so not to sound harsh or anything but... which ones listed there will one come out of expecting a job?
every single one

when you do your internship they don't even look at where it came from i don't think. well they certainly don't discriminate based on what uni it was from. it's like getting an accounting cadetship, no one gives a shit where you go and do your degree. That's why newcastle is popular, because it's only 5 years and really, who can be fucked being at uni for longer (such as at UNSW) when it doesn't do much..
 

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everyone gets a job if ur a doctor, nurse or even teacher, there are shortages everywhere!
 

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Depends what sort of doctor you are...it's more accurate to say there is a demand for GPs - but not necessarily *everywhere*- moreso in rural areas or places like Newcastle.
 

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That supposeably because the number of hrs you work + stress involved in those jobs compared to the money you get is not very good.
 

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i disagree, physicians get a motza even for their stressful workign conditions.....now a really bad job is being a nurse or teacher i reckon, cos they have to work equally as hard and get shit all.
 

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Originally posted by Giant Lobster
Ok, so not to sound harsh or anything but... which ones listed there will one come out of expecting a job?
You can't "expect" to get a job just by going to any of these. What the courses do is offer you the chance to gain the skills and knowledge required to be a good Doctor. It's up to you to decide whether you suck or not. Hospitals don't look at where you come from when they hire you, they look at how well you do in uni. If you did shit all in med and somehow didn't get kicked out, they still won't hire you.
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ok whats an MBBS? Someone has to ask....
It's the English adaptation of Medicin Baccalaureus Baccalaureus Chirugi.
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i disagree, physicians get a motza even for their stressful workign conditions.....now a really bad job is being a nurse or teacher i reckon, cos they have to work equally as hard and get shit all.
Doctors' starting salary is generally agreed to be around $50,000 per annum. However, interns have an insanely heavy weekly load, with up to five twelve hour shifts a week. The two years of internship are considered to be even more testing that the six years of MBBS study, and competition to enter Postgraduate (specialisation) study is definitely more competitive than entry into intitial medical training. Many MBBS holders never become Residents (students of a specialisation) because there simply are not enough specialist study places available to them.

If you think you've hit the high life once you graduate you're in for a nasty surprise. Medicine is a lifetime of uphill battles, and they only stop short of asking you to commit autosurgery before easing up on the pressure. Most professionals are in a comfortable lifestyle by age 30 - this refers to Lawyers, Accountants etc. Doctors can't rest until about 40 at the earliest, as this is when (if they were lucky and worked hard) they will have earned their place in the College of their specialisation and joined or secured a Practice. That doesn't leave much time in life to enjoy prosperity!
 

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Originally posted by Lexicographer
You can't "expect" to get a job just by going to any of these. What the courses do is offer you the chance to gain the skills and knowledge required to be a good Doctor. It's up to you to decide whether you suck or not. Hospitals don't look at where you come from when they hire you, they look at how well you do in uni. If you did shit all in med and somehow didn't get kicked out, they still won't hire you.It's the English adaptation of Medicin Baccalaureus Baccalaureus Chirugi.Doctors' starting salary is generally agreed to be around $50,000 per annum. However, interns have an insanely heavy weekly load, with up to five twelve hour shifts a week. The two years of internship are considered to be even more testing that the six years of MBBS study, and competition to enter Postgraduate (specialisation) study is definitely more competitive than entry into intitial medical training. Many MBBS holders never become Residents (students of a specialisation) because there simply are not enough specialist study places available to them.

If you think you've hit the high life once you graduate you're in for a nasty surprise. Medicine is a lifetime of uphill battles, and they only stop short of asking you to commit autosurgery before easing up on the pressure. Most professionals are in a comfortable lifestyle by age 30 - this refers to Lawyers, Accountants etc. Doctors can't rest until about 40 at the earliest, as this is when (if they were lucky and worked hard) they will have earned their place in the College of their specialisation and joined or secured a Practice. That doesn't leave much time in life to enjoy prosperity!
lol how do u know so much about the lives of med grads when ur not even doing it urself (i take that from ur sig) :p

hmmm referring to getting a job, so they dont care jack all about -where- ur from, but from ur results instead? I thought the world was shallow...
 

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ahahaha...

i dunno bout australia

but in HK like a dr working in hospital has a 20hr shift and the gets a day off..then works another 20hrs..


fark...
 

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how do docs work? i mean, is a 20 hr shift a 20 hr shift?

like, they walk around the big big hospital, then after 3 hrs of chatting up some nurses (nice ones :) ) they r called up to poke that thing around their neck on someone's chest, or stab some guy with a needle or what not... then another 4 and so hours of the void. :p

or have i got the idea all full wrong? :(
 

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Originally posted by Giant Lobster
lol how do u know so much about the lives of med grads when ur not even doing it urself (i take that from ur sig) :p

hmmm referring to getting a job, so they dont care jack all about -where- ur from, but from ur results instead? I thought the world was shallow...
a) research
b) communication

:)
 

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Originally posted by Giant Lobster
how do docs work? i mean, is a 20 hr shift a 20 hr shift?

like, they walk around the big big hospital, then after 3 hrs of chatting up some nurses (nice ones :) ) they r called up to poke that thing around their neck on someone's chest, or stab some guy with a needle or what not... then another 4 and so hours of the void. :p

or have i got the idea all full wrong? :(

ahaha, thats aus..

but in HK, its different..

every hospital is busy 24/ 7 there...
 

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my cousin has recently finished his internsip and said at times his salary was equivelent to earning $13.00 an hour!!!, but now hes a happy chappy gp at an mbf medical centerand earning good money. this is where the majority of doctors that stay in the city end up until they can afford to open a private practise.
 

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