wot is islamic culture?
withoutaface said:
I said Islamic culture, not Islam. The culture that is created around a religion may or may not be what was originally intended, but for the purposes of this thread it is immaterial. We care about results, not intent.
What is islamic culture???
have you studied it? Practiced it? experienced it ? experienced it in a muslim country?
First of all that rape incident was condemned by the islamic community in NSW and by prominent lawyers of the muslim community who said that that guy shouldnt be able to use islam as a scapegoat to get the defence of provocation
Didnt u read the SMH?? or are u still into the daily telegraph ??
We condemned it- but aparently- some people were sleeping at the time and are going around saying that the muslims need to condemn their evil actions.
This is an evil act and under islam and is to be punished severely so that no one will follow his example
now with islamic culture- this is anything which is good and not bad
in islam we "forbid evil and promote good" But when you examine the word "good" in this sentence (arabic) it is referring to any good culture that is acceptable
so if you invite people over for a sunday barbe- and that is good culture then that is acceptable and therefore islamic! theres nothing wrong with having a BBQ in islam and in fact, you can even be rewarded for it- if your intentions are sincere!
So this is what islam calls for - sincerity
some pakistani and afghan tribes have kept some bad culture that they had before islam reached there. Again we emphasise tribes- not the whole of the nation or people or their religion!
in afghanistan- theres been reports of child abuse in public! i dunno about pakistan but stuff happens there- and it is the responsibility of the muslims to enforce islamic culture (which is good culture acceptable by the majority of islamic scholars)
The first thing that Saddam hussien did in power was kill his opponents and the islamic scholars- his baathist party was formed by micheal aflek (orthodox christian) and athiests- with saddam himself being a soviet agent.
2 generations of islamic scholars were killed in iraq- so how can they stand up for justice when justice is being demolished there?
Remember that at the beginning of saddam's era - he was being praised by the west and by the pope so apart from killing muslim scholars and his family and friends he was an okay bloke (?) - so the question then is: where were the muslims to condemn all this? The answer is that they did condemn; but outside of iraq there was this thing called nationalism
at that time that christian guy Aflek wanted to create a pan arabian state where various arab states, egypt and libya would be joined as one. and saddam was at the forefront of all this - so i dont think that they wanted to piss him off (?) coz this process was in real danger of collapse
i wasnt there at the time
and i am not a scholar of islam '
So you'll have to take that at face value -
a lot of things that happen in the middle east- we will never hear about so dont get carried away with it
the terrorist ideologies u hear all over the place all started in the 1900s - but these ideologies were corrupted with marxism and other weird philosophies
a recent HUGE gathering of islamic scholars in the middle east condemned terrorism- and these people are well known- so we'll have to see the impact of all that- i dont care about those guys in caves 1 km underground in their secret bases "or so rumsfeld says!" but what i care about is that these ideologies should be wiped out completely because they have no basis in islam and are not supported by the majority of the scholars and they have caused the muslims suffering whether it be with military or otherwise!
this is a good site to read more about this but it doesnt talk about the ideologies of these people - although it does talk about the people who started these ideologies like sayyed Qutb and others...
http://www.shaykhabdalqadir.com/content/articles/Art051_15122005.html
cheers
