Starcraftmazter
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I don't think the church is all that relevant in regards to this. Like atheists say, you don't need to be religious to have morals.withoutaface said:It's called a fucking church.
I don't think the church is all that relevant in regards to this. Like atheists say, you don't need to be religious to have morals.withoutaface said:It's called a fucking church.
I'm a virgin, and I'll remain a virgin til my wedding night. This is because I only want to sleep with someone I am committed to, who I am going to spend the rest of my life with. I'm not only saving the act of sex until marriage - I am also saving other forms of physical intimacy (eg making out heaps, being naked with each other, sharing a bed, etc...), and also the intense emotional intimacy and vulnerability that is part of a committed loving sexual relationship. I only want to have that with one person – the person that I set up a family with. I think that relationship will be more fulfilling and intimate if i havent had it with anyone else.ElGronko said:Can one of you virgins please clearly state why you think it should be saved until after marriage? And saying "waiting for the right person" doesn't justify waiting for marriage, that justifies waiting for the right person.
And saying "it would be romantic" is redundant and immature.
Someone give me a logical and rational reason to wait till after marriage for sex.
Well no shit.*Buttercup* said:Truth be told, I don't understand wanting to have sex with lots of people.
How many atheists do you know who believe that? I sure as hell don't. You know why? Because:Starcraftmazter said:I don't think the church is all that relevant in regards to this. Like atheists say, you don't need to be religious to have morals.
a) I assume soRiet said:How many atheists do you know who believe that? I sure as hell don't. You know why? Because:
a) Sex is fun
b) It's really not that big a deal
here's my answer to the question: its good to be a virgin because you don't get used for sex, you're only with someone who respects you (ie. respects your decision to save sex), you don't have to worry about pregnancies/stds, there aren't other people walking around out there who know about that very intimate part of you aaaaand, when you do finally have sex, the only person you've ever been with is ur husband. that has several benefits; you love and trust them, know they're not thinking about their last root while you're giving them your all and (i guess this is a personal thing here) if they aren't fantastic it doesn't matter coz you don't have anything to compare with and you can just love them and enjoy the sex.Emily. said:marriage is a piece of paper. its lost all meaning these days. people getting married, people getting divorced. in my opinion, people should only marry people who they are truly in love with, who they envisage spending the rest of their life with, that they can completely devote themselves too and would never want to have sex with a different person ever again
"to have an to hold, through sickness and in health" yada yada yada
im not saying i dont believe in divorce, i just think people rush into marriage too quickly these days. and these marriages mean little more than a piece of paper.
1) Wtf residue are you talking about? Misinformed much? I dunno about you but I shower daily*TRUE* said:a) I assume so
b) Its not that big a deal to you.
Also , i was thinking just cause u dont sleep around lots , maybe your partner has. Effectively sharing residue with a large number of people... i heard it stays for 7 years. And if you use a particular form of contraception that lots of people whill jump in and say shoudl be used.... those things break alot and ive heard they arent the best option anyway.
1. You need to get married to be respected? GO TEAM FEMINISM! Also, what's wrong about being used/using someone, for sex? That's what I meant when virgins think it's a big deal when it's really not.evry1getscrewed said:here's my answer to the question: its good to be a virgin because you don't get used for sex, you're only with someone who respects you (ie. respects your decision to save sex), you don't have to worry about pregnancies/stds, there aren't other people walking around out there who know about that very intimate part of you aaaaand, when you do finally have sex, the only person you've ever been with is ur husband. that has several benefits; you love and trust them, know they're not thinking about their last root while you're giving them your all and (i guess this is a personal thing here) if they aren't fantastic it doesn't matter coz you don't have anything to compare with and you can just love them and enjoy the sex.
also, i think a marriage would have more meaning if you're that devoted to somebody and you know that christians have a lower divorce rate than non-christians (no i am NOT a christian)
would you leave your partner because she wasn't performing well in the bedroom?Optimus Prime said:1. You need to get married to be respected? GO TEAM FEMINISM! Also, what's wrong about being used/using someone, for sex? That's what I meant when virgins think it's a big deal when it's really not.
2. that's why you choose people you can trust and/or use the right protection. And get tested regularly.
3. If you go shit in an English exam, you know you went shit, even though you can't compare it with the feeling of someone who has gone well. My first time, even though I didn't know any better, I knew it could be much better. And it can be. I'm sorry to say it but no matter how much you "love" someone, it won't make up for all inadequacies. Plenty of people have sexually unsatisfying marriages even though they love each other. Hell, there's even a TV show about it.
Also christians getting divorced less? That's just plain wrong. something like 90% of Australia associated with some religon and divorce rates have still been going up.
I find it odd how it's mostly girls who keep spouting on about love and respect. What the fuck happened to equality and the (original) feminist movement? If you think the only way a man can respect you is by putting a gold ring on your left third finger while you wear a white dress, that's pretty bloody pathetic.
That's the general atheist's reply to the argument of, "religion is important for being a good citizen, etc - morals". If they don't have morals, the argument is win for the...religious person.Riet said:How many atheists do you know who believe that?
If they think it's a big deal, then to them, it clearly is.Optimus Prime said:Also, what's wrong about being used/using someone, for sex? That's what I meant when virgins think it's a big deal when it's really not.
im only 20 and most people get married later in life like at 30 or whatever. if its already 5 by the end of their teen years it'd probably be like 10 or 15 by the time she hits 30. not my cup of teaSchroedinger said:Dude, that just reeks of sexual insecurity... Average partners over a lifetime are 8.
Schroedinger said:Dude, that just reeks of sexual insecurity... Average partners over a lifetime are 8.
If she didn't improve, yes. It's 2/3s of a relationship. Practise makes you better at things it's that simple.CharlieB said:would you leave your partner because she wasn't performing well in the bedroom?
EDIT: I don't see how having pre-marital sex will make you a better sexual partner? THe majority of marriages where sex becomes unsatisfying is not because one person is a dud root, but because of problems of stress, intimacy etc
How is no sex till marraige an example of morality? Just because I have sex doesnt mean I kill people. I still have morals.Starcraftmazter said:That's the general atheist's reply to the argument of, "religion is important for being a good citizen, etc - morals". If they don't have morals, the argument is win for the...religious person.
Morals may not matter to some...but to many or most they are important.
If they think it's a big deal, then to them, it clearly is.
Morality does not mean not killing people.Optimus Prime said:How is no sex till marraige an example of morality? Just because I have sex doesnt mean I kill people. I still have morals.
Make me?Optimus Prime said:Yeh, to them it is. My whole point is they're wrong. Anyway, I said end thread stfu.
have a cookie.shoutoutloud said:Im NOT having it before marriage