Fatties have right to extra airline seat (1 Viewer)

[gibbo153]

hmm theoritically discrimination is pretty clear cut in how it is defined, but in practice its really hard to answer something like that. i don't think anything other than absolutely none, is possible to agree on..

 

[hpdanemma]

Well for starters there is a definite difference between prejudice and discrimination. Prejudice involves holding stigma towards a an individual or group, usually for a personal reason, due to shared characeristics or stereotypes. Discrimination also involves treating a group or individual a certain way, but it can be both positive or negative. For example, helping an old lady with her bag on a train is discrimination due to the fact that you are doing it because she is old and you have preconcieved ideas and expectations about older people. Therefore, you are discriminatory but not prejudice.

 

[katie tully]

Thanks for the essay on discrimination and prejudice. Now answer the question.

What level of prejudice should be tolerated/accepted?

 

[Dooga]

That made me laugh. Good point. I guess an overweight person needs a seat - period. And a smoker could (thereotically) wait until they got off to have a cigarettte.
Small seats stops overweight guy from flying full stop. But the smoker has a choice.

dude a fat person has a choice whether to eat or not
whether they can do exercise or not

whether there fuckwits or not

what the hell is up with you

are you fat????
cause if you are its your own fault

fat people dont deserve more rights.
i got bad knees
does that mean i should get an extra seat free of charge to rest them on cause i cant keep them bent for long periods of time???

NO IT DOESNT
FAT PEOPLE PAY FOR YOUR OWN SEAT YOU TARDS

 

[gibbo153]

i spose accomodating for people's bad eating habits so excessively just kind of reduces the strength of society's ideals of good health.

 

[inasero]

dude a fat person has a choice whether to eat or not
whether they can do exercise or not

whether there fuckwits or not

what the hell is up with you

are you fat????
cause if you are its your own fault

fat people dont deserve more rights.
i got bad knees
does that mean i should get an extra seat free of charge to rest them on cause i cant keep them bent for long periods of time???

NO IT DOESNT
FAT PEOPLE PAY FOR YOUR OWN SEAT YOU TARDS

I think there's a difference there in that your bad knees are largely due to circumstances beyond your control (unless it's a consequence of being overweight) whereas the majority of overweight people are so because of the lifestyle choices they have made, therefore I understand that passengers are required to vacate their seats for elderly/disabled passengers (besides it being common courtesy).

 

[Kwayera]

True. Having bad knees doesn't directly impinge on others, though. Giving up your seat for an elderly/disabled person is a CHOICE, one which most people don't have too much trouble making.

The issue here (which has been repeated often) is that airlines are essentially being forced to financially disavantage their other customers to accomodate an obese person's second seat, which I think we can all agree is an entirely different situation.

 

[hpdanemma]

Gawd our countries so damn obese!
Yeh they probably should get an extra seat, the point of air travel is to accomodate for people in society. A lot of people in soceity are obese! And it barely impacts on other passengers, except that an extra person could be in that seat. That being said, I think that other person as well as the individual who is overweight would rather not be in that situation lol.
If you're so overweight that you need an extra seat, you should probably get one.
But for Gods sake, people in that situation [and who aren't affected be a disability which means they put on more weight than others] should have to go on a mandatory lifestyle program. If they were taught ways of being healthy and had it shoved down their throat then it'd be better for everyone in the long run. Meaning less health problems, therefore less time in hospital [thats good for individual, community and government], longer life span, more time in the workforce, healthier raising of kids etc etc.

 

[supercalamari]

How about unless these fat people can give a doctors certificate from three different specialists, a GP, Psychiatrist and Dietician, saying their weight is beyond their control, that we chuck them off the damn plane. I hate being stuck next to fat people on any form of shared transport, invasion of space much.

 

[Pace_T]

Gawd our countries so damn obese!
Yeh they probably should get an extra seat, the point of air travel is to accomodate for people in society. A lot of people in soceity are obese! And it barely impacts on other passengers, except that an extra person could be in that seat. That being said, I think that other person as well as the individual who is overweight would rather not be in that situation lol.
If you're so overweight that you need an extra seat, you should probably get one.
But for Gods sake, people in that situation [and who aren't affected be a disability which means they put on more weight than others] should have to go on a mandatory lifestyle program. If they were taught ways of being healthy and had it shoved down their throat then it'd be better for everyone in the long run. Meaning less health problems, therefore less time in hospital [thats good for individual, community and government], longer life span, more time in the workforce, healthier raising of kids etc etc.

no one said they shouldn't get an extra seat? lol idiot.

"barely impacts on other passengers except that an extra person could be in that seat?"
again, lol idiot.

no one said they cant have an extra seat. the question is should the airline be forced to give it for free

learn to be less stupid please.

 

[youngminii]

Analogy: One meal of Maccas doesn't fill me up, so I should get another for free

 

[inasero]

fail

 

[hpdanemma]

no one said they shouldn't get an extra seat? lol idiot.

"barely impacts on other passengers except that an extra person could be in that seat?"
again, lol idiot.

no one said they cant have an extra seat. the question is should the airline be forced to give it for free

learn to be less stupid please.

By saying "they probably should get an extra seat" I meant should be GIVEN an extra seat; as in FOR FREE. Jesus sorry for apparently not making it clear enough for you.
And there has been much mention of wether it is better for the overweight individual to either a) have one seat and annoy the people who are next to them or b) have the extra seat and therefore extra room.
I'm sure that unless the seat was free, many overweight individuals wouldn't bother paying for an extra. To all the people complainging saying it is unfair and "they should pay for their on seat", I was merely pointing out that there is little negative effect on other airline passengers except for the fact that for every extra seat used, one less person can travel on the plane. I then went on to indicate that it is unlikely the person who could have been in that seat would enjoy being squished up next to someone who doesn't quite fit, it would be an incredibly unpleasent flight. Neither would this be a pleasent experience for the overweight individual.

All cleared up, or do I need to explain it to you further?

 

[youngminii]

Ya know what? Everyone's complaining about how there'll be one less passenger on board, or it's their own fault since they're fat
But we're all just angry that they get an extra $(enter 4 digits here) worth for free. Kinda makes me wanna become fat, you know?

 

[Pace_T]

By saying "they probably should get an extra seat" I meant should be GIVEN an extra seat; as in FOR FREE. Jesus sorry for apparently not making it clear enough for you.

i wouldve accepted this, but the second quote in my last post still doesnt make sense. regardless, at least you understand now.

I'm sure that unless the seat was free, many overweight individuals wouldn't bother paying for an extra.

what about all of those obese people who simply cant fit into one seat?

To all the people complainging saying it is unfair and "they should pay for their on seat", I was merely pointing out that there is little negative effect on other airline passengers except for the fact that for every extra seat used, one less person can travel on the plane.

im going to assume you mean the extra seat is for free:
you still dont understand. if the obese person gets the extra seat for free then the airlines costs remain the same yet there is one less passenger on the plane. the implication that raises issues in this thread is not really the fact that one less person will be travelling on the plane but RATHER the fact that the cost of that extra seat is spread across ALL passengers, i.e. everyone else is going to subsidise that seat. do you understand now???????? GOSH.

I then went on to indicate that it is unlikely the person who could have been in that seat would enjoy being squished up next to someone who doesn't quite fit, it would be an incredibly unpleasent flight. Neither would this be a pleasent experience for the overweight individual.

it depends on their size. some simply need 2 seats and its not a matter of comfort.

All cleared up, or do I need to explain it to you further?

and you're trying to make me sound like the idiot? LOL

 

[Pace_T]

Analogy: One meal of Maccas doesn't fill me up, so I should get another for free

i think i made a similar agument before. so everybody defending the court's ruling should try to make sense out of this scenario. i bet no one can

 

[withoutaface]

the point of air travel is to accomodate for people in society.

the point of air travel is to accomodate for people in society.

the point of air travel is to accomodate for people in society.

the point of air travel is to accomodate for people in society.

the point of air travel is to accomodate for people in society.

the point of air travel is to accomodate for people in society.

 

[Ivorytw]

The point of society is to cater for society.

 

[Kwayera]

By saying "they probably should get an extra seat" I meant should be GIVEN an extra seat; as in FOR FREE. Jesus sorry for apparently not making it clear enough for you.
And there has been much mention of wether it is better for the overweight individual to either a) have one seat and annoy the people who are next to them or b) have the extra seat and therefore extra room.
I'm sure that unless the seat was free, many overweight individuals wouldn't bother paying for an extra. To all the people complainging saying it is unfair and "they should pay for their on seat", I was merely pointing out that there is little negative effect on other airline passengers except for the fact that for every extra seat used, one less person can travel on the plane. I then went on to indicate that it is unlikely the person who could have been in that seat would enjoy being squished up next to someone who doesn't quite fit, it would be an incredibly unpleasent flight. Neither would this be a pleasent experience for the overweight individual.

All cleared up, or do I need to explain it to you further?

Given my second bolded statement, why the first bolded statement? Why SHOULD they get the second seat for free? Airline travel is a luxury service. That you pay for. It is not a right like you seem to think it is (and if it was, by god I'd demand to travel first class), and if a paying passenger is so fat that they need an extra seat to accomodate them, then they should goddamn pay for that extra seat.

Giving an extra seat to them does harm the other passengers, as to make up for the shortfall, the airline must make up the money elsewhere and you can bet that will be in upping everyone's ticket prices.

 

[aimhigh10]

Does that mean that they get double portioned meals as well?